[California Patriot]

The 17th-century Puritans are a bad analogy. They were moving to a virgin land, one where they could do their own thing and sink or swim by their own efforts. The Dutch emigres are moving into a going society, one that has the same deadly forces as the ones they are leaving.

[garbanzo]

They were moving to a virgin land, one where they could do their own thing and sink or swim by their own efforts.

Wasn't exactly virgin...and a lot of activist groups will pointedly point that out to you.