Democrats Still Pushing Vote Fraud Allegations - Needs Freeper Attention

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[Fithal the Wise]

20 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA

Did you know.... 1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines. http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee. http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26

http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates. http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm

http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes. http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

11. Diebold is based in Ohio. http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree. http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years. http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio. http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here .) http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html

http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm

http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html

http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother. http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html

20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation. http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm

http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html

http://uscountvotes.org/

[Fithal the Wise]

Be aware, this attempt by innuendo to diminish the Bush sweeping victory is currently making the rounds via email among the liberals and needs Freeper attention and refutation.

[bitt]

ooooouuuuuuuuhhhhhhh, we have been DUPED!!

someone quick, call the NYTimes!

[international american]

They are on crack.

[stm]

To insinuate these people are on crack is a slap in the face to crack addicts worldwide!!!!

[InTheRight]

Actually, it just makes them the laughing stock of any intelligent person.

[GD_Lib]

Are the items listed false?

[MEG33]

I have posted with some of these delusional people on a small board..There is no fact than can deter them..nothing that can change their opinion...They will always believe this election was stolen..and the Bush voters are duped, ignorant rednecks or fascist conspirators...

[international american]

I was out of line, sorry:)

[boycott]

Easy solution:

Democrats that don't trust the system should protest and not vote anymore.

:>)

[MEG33]

LOL..!

[stm]

These are the same people that will argue that Desert Storm never happened, it was staged out in the deserts of the Southwest. Or that we never landed on the moon. People like this are a waste of time and not worth the effort. One can only hope they go the way of Andy Veal.

[itsinthebag]

Be aware, this attempt by innuendo to diminish the Bush sweeping victory is currently making the rounds via email among the liberals and needs Freeper attention and refutation.

And that's where it will stay. Who else cares?

[expatpat]

Let 'em shout 'fraud' -- then we can use their prep work to get the mess in city voting cleaned up.

[RtWngr]

Let' s start another kookie theory for them: For all of this to work, it means that there can be no employees who have any idea what is going on - no whistleblowers - which means that these two companies must only hire right-wing radicals!

[airborne]

Are the items listed false?

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here .) http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

Using link to see the "monkey hacker", I could not find any movie or reference to a monkey.

[RtWngr]

Let me see - these people complaining about the electronic voting are the same people that complained that their constituents were too stupid to punch a hole in a card and that they needed electronic voting.

[airborne]

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html

Democrats employed felons to get out the vote. They also distributed drugs in exchange for votes. They also campaigned to allow felons to vote, and employed felons to intimidate Reublicans at polling places.

[cgbg]

Well, I can refute some of this.

Only two Diebold machines were actually used in Ohio in this election. Diebold has a contract for many more but they have not yet been installed.

The vast majority of Ohio counties are still using the old machines and not the new electronic ones.

There is a paper trail for almost all precincts in Ohio.

As we all know the vast majority of voter fraud in the United States has traditionally been in heavily Democratic urban precincts where the local bosses have ther minions fill out blank absentee ballots and stuff the ballot box, vote multiple times in different precincts, and tamper with mechanical voting machines.

The current Dummie interest in voting fraud could most charitably be described as quaint. :-)

While I enjoy beating up on Dummies I do agree with them that the future plans to install electronic voting machines without paper trails is not a good idea. But it was the Democrats who yelled and screamed and cowed Congress into mandating the future installation of such machines after the Florida hanging chad mess in 2000. So the Dummies have only themselves to blame.

[LibSnubber]

Sorry FtW,

To refute them would be to validate them - and I will never do that. They have orgasms every time someone recognizes their tinfoil "theories". So therefore, I refuse to refute! But refute away, I guess, if it makes you feel better. :)

[cgbg]

"two voting machines" should have been "voting machines in two counties".