Former Senior Aide to Pat Buchanan Spoke at Holocaust Deniers’ Meeting

Israel National News ^ | 08:45 Dec 16, '04 / 4 Tevet 5765

[AppyPappy]

They also buried them in mass graves. The went to incinerators when they ran out of land. And there were a lot of camps.

[sauropod]

The association of a former Buchanan aide with Holocaust-deniers is particularly noteworthy in view of Buchanan’s own troubling positions concerning Hitler and the Holocaust. He has written that 850,000 Jews could not have been gassed in Treblinka because “diesel engines do not emit enough carbon dioxide to kill anybody”; he spoke out on behalf of accused Nazi war criminals Karl Linnas and Arthur Rudolph; he wrote columns defending Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk; he described Hitler as “an individual of great courage”; and he mocked Holocaust survivors’ memories as “group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics.” (The New Republic, Oct.15 and Oct.22, 1990) In his 1999 book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Buchanan argued that the U.S. should not have gone to war against Nazi Germany.

Cheap shots and unconnected smears.

I am not a big fan of Pat anymore (mainly for economic and populist reasons) but this drivel is only worthy of Michael Moore. I am familiar w/ most of the quotes alluded to. From what I remember, his defense of Demjanjuk was rational and conservative. This is tripe of the worst order.

This smacks of a Dershowitz hit-and-run.

[xJones]

I can't imagine anything much more infuriating to the family of Holocaust victims than hearing smug Holocaust deniers spouting off on that which they know nothing of. They weren't there, but all the testimony in the world by American troops that entered some of those camps will change their 'minds'. I have worked with a few old vets, they had seen the truth first-hand, and were still sickened by it decades later.

For Jewish relatives of the murdered, it should be enraging to be told that they're lying when they can point to umpteen relatives that were sent to concentration camps and never came out alive.

There is a poster on this thread whom I won't name because I get the impression that the alleged 61 year-old is having organisms over all the attention. Early senile dementia is another cruel fate.:)

[AppyPappy]

A little math.

I was in Lions Club with a guy who liberated a camp. They interviewed a guard who said they only killed prisoners when attrition(typhoid, dysentary, etc) didn't kill them fast enough to make room for new prisoners. After liberation, prisoners were still dying at a rate of 80 per day and that was with food and water. One of the captured guards claimed to know of 35 "labor camps" in Western Germany alone.

Let's go conservative with 35 camps averaging 100 dead per day for 4 years. 5,110,000. That's just Western Germany.

And the Nazis swept all of Europe rounding up Jews. The number of Jews who were not captured in Europe may have numbers in the few hundreds.

Six million is perfectly understandable, especially to those who saw it.

[thegreatbeast]

I saw Pat on C-SPAN this weekend talking about the Wannasee Conference and using the 6 million figure. No denial there.

[steve-b]

Troll cleanup on Aisle Three....

Incoming ZOT....

[steve-b]

From what I remember, his defense of Demjanjuk was rational and conservative.

Er, no. A case for that assertion could be made if Buchanan had a record of defending a wide variety of people accused of crimes. His actual record is, shall we say, more selective.

[PA Engineer]

Ditto. My thoughts exactly. These idiots just can't help themselves.

[steve-b]

I hear that Pat Buchanan lost a great-uncle at one of the Nazi camps.

Fell out of the guard tower and broke his neck, he did....

[Fatalis]

From what I remember, his defense of Demjanjuk was rational and conservative.

Only in that Demjanjuk was misidentified as Ivan the Terrible. He was a different guard in a different death camp.

[r9etb]

The notion that how many BTU to consume a corpse times number of corpses divided by number of available crematoria...Lets not let reality impair...there is a showa factor here...lets not

My grandfather was the First Army IG in WWII, and one of his major tasks was to gather evidence for German war crimes. He brought home a stack of pictures from that. Among them was a whole series showing stacks of bodies, partially burned bodies in crematory ovens (they'd toss them in several at a time), and all manner of other ghastly things.

Having seen the pictures, I'm not impressed by your silly devil's advocate position.

My grandfather saw it with his own eyes, and I suspect he'd call you a fool for doubting it. The nazis were monsters, and they did what it's said they did.

[Lijahsbubbe]

MORON. Learn how to spell Shoah first before you dispense your bar room wisdom.

LOL. Like he said, he's like his aunt. Runs in the family.

[reagandemo]

My dad was in charge of a train of prisoners headed to the Nuremberg trials at the end of WWII. I have some great pictures he took of the monsters he was charged to guard. He told me that what was striking about them was that they were such gentlemen polite and everything. If you did not know what horrible things that they were responsible for you would think that they were great people. Oh, my dad saw the concentration camps first hand. It boggles my mind that people refuse to admit that the Holocaust did not happen. They say that stupidity is incurable.. I guess there is true in that statement.

[SJackson]

I do NOT believe it was lead by anti-semites, but I am convinved it ATTRACTED anti-semites!

You're probably right. It's interesting that Pat wanted the Republican Party to court the Duke supporters. After all, Duke's right on some issues :

[Lijahsbubbe]

I just don't know what I'll do about all of this attention.

Oh yeah ya do. You'll use it to fill the the void that you have from your cold mommy and absent daddy. That's why you came here. To get attention. So sad.

I know it gets hard around the Christmas season, specially when you hear all the songs about love and warmth, something you never had.

I'm dreaming of a White Christmas.....guess who wrote that?...

[duckln]

In his 1999 book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Buchanan argued that the U.S. should not have gone to war against Nazi Germany.

A totally false statement. Guess it's time to bash Pat again.

[SJackson]

From what I remember, his defense of Demjanjuk was rational and conservative.

Pat's defense rested largely on his opinion that Demjanjuk was a pretty good guy, and so what if he lied about being a prison camp guard, illegal immigrants deserve amnesty, at least a select few. Same thing Pat said about Karl Linnas and other Nazis. And no, Demjanjuk wasn't Ivan the terrible, but he was a camp guard as every court involved in the case has determined. His contension that it's a worse miscariage of justice than Alfred Dreyfus is ludicrous, Dreyfus was guilty of nothing.

[Alouette]

Hell, I can't spell Aushitz, or ...

I doubt you can pronounce it either. Especially with that much alcohol in your system.

[SJackson]

His years long efforts on behalf of Karl Linnas commander of the camp at Tartu, Estonia was more revealing. He pressured Ed Meese for years to drop his deportation, then pushed for some country to grant him entry. Eventually Meese had no choice but to follow the law and deport him.