Posted on 12/17/2004 4:48:52 AM PST by SJackson
no offense but I usually ignore peace talk articles.
In my humble opinion all the palestenians should have been pushed out during the last war into the desert to drop dead. When the wall gets complete it will be to the effect of severing all ecconmic links of support from the palestinian state. Unemployment will go to 80% and they will either move or starve waiting for UN to help. Personally I would prefer a carpetbombing and then say it was an accedent.
Alway nice to have an new intellectual on board, at least for awhile :>)
There we go. Will the media report that now? Or will they stick with the headline from a few days ago saying that Abu Mazen renounced terrorism?
I appreciate your response to the questions. I guess we can agree to disagree on a few issues, but it doesnt seem like you are a confirmed member of the rabid anti-semite club to me, so please accept my apologies.
Yes, there were Christians all over the Middle East, for centuries. Lebanon was envisioned as a Christian state, and partitioned as such. Unfortunately, it was overthrown and occupied by Islamists a few decades back, and the rest of the Middle East Christians have been living in persecution for decades. The real guiding question concerning Middle East Christians is where do they go to escape religious persecution- The Copts, Marionites, Palestinian Christians, etc who live in countries in the Middle East that are extremely hostile to them and keep them in virtual dhimmitude. This is a perplexing question, and one that deserves to be given some real attention.
I know of few committed Zionist Christians or Zionist Jews who wish to commit genocide to solve the Palestinian problem. I can see where it would be easy to draw that conclusion from extremist statements of some of them make, but I have learned to consider the source when I see or hear these statements.
There are admittedly some who are maybe a little more attached to the cause than is healthy, but true practitioners of both religious traditions call for preservation of human life, and no one advocates or even wants to be associated with a perverted 21st century version of the "Final Solution" when the Palestinian issue is addressed.
Anyone who is well read and knows any history at all knows the drumroll of anti-semitism is the prelude to a totalitarian movement with designs on world control. The only difference between the Hitlerian anti-semites of the 1940's and the Islamic/Leftist anti-semites of today is the fact todays anti-semites include both Jews and Zionist Christians on the list to be dealt with, as well as the nation of Israel, in their version of the "Final Solution" which is apparently still being cooked up.
The huge flaw in their logic is the fact that the actions they take to disestablish and weaken the nation of Israel could eventually result in a genocide of epic proportions if the Arabs took advantage of the results their actions gained and drew Israel into a prolonged war.
Thats my reason for my committed defense of Israel. I dont want to see this end up in genocide-which it very well could if this isnt addressed and is allowed to grow.
This is a rather doctrinaire statement. I think in the vast majority of cases it would be more intellectually honest to admit these people have concluded the Palestinians are absolutely intransigent, and are willing to play by Palestinian rules, instead of claiming they "wish to commit genocide."
I have never heard of any "Kach" members or other "extremists" advocating genocide of the "Palestinians". The most "extreme" solution that I have ever heard is equally distributing the "Palestinians" among the Arab and Muslim nations and letting them take care of the Frankenstein monster that they created.
The "Palestinians" and their supporters openly advocate genocide of all the Jews.
What people say and what they are actually capable of carrying out are different things, especially when they are frustrated by the actions of a ruthless foe with no regard for human life and do not function by any known standard of civilized society.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. It may be an exercise in benevolence on my part, but I learned a long time ago to look at the actions of individuals before I generalize all members of a certain group. It may be charitable and naive to do so, but its just how I am.
Hello
Can you explain to me why the Israel simply declares War on the "Palestinians" and have them beg for peace.?
Exactly Alouette.
Israel seeks justice for murders committed on members of its society.
The Palestinians seek the murder of Israelis for political and national goals.
There is no ethical dilemna here. Israel is right.
Can you explain to me just what the heck this sentence is supposed to mean?
There is no such thing as a "Palestinian", just as Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian, not a "Palestinian."
Israel was a verifiable nation long before Rome annexed it, and Jews lived there since the Roman annexation.
"Yeah, and driving bulldozers through refugee camps is a really accurate means of targetting - come to think of it, why are these people living in such camps, could it be the ethnic cleansing the Israelis undertook back in the late '40s?"
So, blowing one's self up in a pizza place filled with Israeli teenage GIRLS is okay with you?
"Well I suppose it would be an improvement on the current policy of indiscriminate slaughter."
If you're referring to the Pali's terror campaign, yes.
If you're referring to the targeted takedowns of HAMAS, and Hezbollah leaders, you're off your rocker.
Palestinians are a manufactured peopel.
Think "Krimpendorf's Tribe."
Last time I checked, it was Syria, Jordan, and Egypt that started wars of aggression and LOST.
Hello.
Explain to me why Egypt, Jordan, and Syria started an unprovoked war on Israel way back in the past and lost, and everyone asks for Israel to apologise for being attacked?
Explain to me why you think the terrorists haven't 'declared war' first?
What makes you think the terrorists even have a legit claim on any land there?
Newbies who show up and spout liberal crap are easily spotted.
Notice he never answered your question about blowing up teenage girls in pizza parlors. The jew-haters always end up exposing themselves. Give them enough time.
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