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1 posted on 12/17/2004 3:57:13 PM PST by yonif
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The poll also found Republicans and people who described themselves as highly religious were more likely to support curtailing Muslims' civil liberties than Democrats or people who are less religious.

Hardly surprising when the term "civil liberties" remains undefined by the pollster, while democrats and less religious bastardize the term in their campaign for racial preference, homosexual desensitzation, and subsidized infanticide.

39 posted on 12/17/2004 4:17:44 PM PST by papertyger
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Looking into the survey, we find... hey, the news media screwed the pooch again!

All Muslim Americans should be required to register their whereabouts with the federal government: 27%
Mosques should be closely monitored and surveilled by U.S. law enforcement agencies: 26%
U.S. government agencies should profile citizens as potential threats based on being Muslim or having Middle Eastern heritage: 22%
Muslim civic and volunteer organizations should be infiltrated by undercover law enforcement agents to keep watch on their actiities and fundraising: 29%
Agreed with none of the statements: 48%
Agreed with one statement: 15%
Agreed with two or more statements: 29%

Some of these things really stretch the definition of "restricting civil liberties". Is it a restriction on your civil liberties when law enforcement focuses on those who are statistically most likely to commit crimes?

That being said, some of these things are truly disturbing. Requiring registration with the federal governent based on religion? C'mon, this is America.

I'm also really curious how come the last three percentages don't add to 100%.

41 posted on 12/17/2004 4:18:17 PM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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Seems a lot of people here will believe anything that is printed...as printed.

It's always questionable with any story by AP, or that involves universities like Cornell (WHO took the survey at Cornell...Muslim students, maybe? What were the ACTUAL questions asked??)

They could have asked loaded questions based on highly narrow circumstances, and then put them all under "the US government should restrict the Civil Liberties of Muslim Americans".

I doubt VERY seriously that ANY -- but a few freaks -- would answer yes to the proposition that "the US government should restrict the Civil Liberties of Muslim Americans". As far as registering where they live, we all do that through a hundred diferent way with federal, state and local governments. Also, the FBI can -- and does -- infiltrate groups that are seen as to potentially pose a danger all the time, with all kinds of groups...to find if they really pose a danger.
45 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:08 PM PST by Jackson Brown
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Well... Mohammedans should have the right to embrace their idiotic sect. There's no point in restricting their civil rights as they have the right to believe in the hallucinations of a murderous pedophile.


46 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:12 PM PST by Kurt_D
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no one asked me, add one more


47 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:39 PM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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I'd be interested to know if this survey made a clear distinction between Muslims who are U.S. citizens, and those who aren't. Doesn't sound like it. A large percentage of the Muslims here aren't citizens, and I have no problem at all with extra levels of scrutiny and regulations for any identifiable group of non-citizens. But doing this to citizens on the basis of their professed faith would be patently unconstitutional.


48 posted on 12/17/2004 4:22:47 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Poll: Nearly half of all Americans support restricting rights of Muslim-Americans

This is encouraging.
It means that nearly half of my fellow citizens have either...
1. learned the REAL and HARD lessons on 9-11-2001
AND/OR
2. paid attention to the Islamic push for supremacy in The Netherlands, France, Belgium,
Germany, Thailand, The Phillipines....(fill in the blanks with any country
that gets a few more than 1% citizens that are observant Muslims.)

My parents also got a re-inforcer lesson when a sizeable FBI posse FINALLY
raided the home of the folks in their neighborhood that ran an "Islamic Charity".
...which just happened to have an associate that bought communnication equipment
used in the bombing of the American embassies in Africa.

Yeah, I'm sure it was a "loose cannon" associate.....
57 posted on 12/17/2004 4:25:20 PM PST by VOA
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There is no such thing as a Muslim American. Islam forbids this. Islam is at war with America, "the great satan". Either you are a Muslim or an American, but never both.

Yeah, restriction is not enough. Not NEARLY enough! Ship them to the "holy" Muslim land of their choice.


58 posted on 12/17/2004 4:25:40 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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add my name to the "almost half" list. :')


60 posted on 12/17/2004 4:27:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Am I the only suspicious that this poll came from Ithaca, the "city of evil"?


63 posted on 12/17/2004 4:30:25 PM PST by rbg81
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Twenty-seven percent of the 715 respondents supported requiring all Muslim-Americans to register where they lived

Wow. That's a real nationwide poll.

Where they lived in the past, or where they live now, and register for what?

Either the reporter never read the question, or the poll is simply more Cornell pro-terrorist bullsh!t.

Or both.
65 posted on 12/17/2004 4:30:45 PM PST by Bars4Bill
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Now the Muslims will have the battle lines drawn back to them. Islam declared war on non-Muslims over 10 years ago, so we have been very slow to react.

If Islam knows that now they have to fight all of Christianity, all the Hindus, all the Humanists, and all the Atheists and other non-believers of Mohammed--they probably will not change their plans to kill us all, but they will know that the US is not going to sit back like Germany did and watch the Nazis destroy non-Nazi groups one-by-one.

Sayonarra, Islam.


70 posted on 12/17/2004 4:41:47 PM PST by jolie560
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"ITHACA, N.Y. "

The City of Evil!!!!!!!!

71 posted on 12/17/2004 4:42:18 PM PST by mrsmith
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One reason I distrust Muslims: lack of "outrage" and even some celebration on 9/11, along with their failure to denounce beheadings, etc., etc., etc.


100 posted on 12/17/2004 5:27:40 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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A nationwide poll finds nearly half of all Americans believe the U-S government should restrict the civil liberties of Muslim Americans.




Half of Americans who took their stupid poll. It would go up if more had take the poll.


114 posted on 12/17/2004 5:38:49 PM PST by Recall
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According to the ruling of the New York State Supreme Court in 1892, moslems have no rights in America, anyway - at least not First Ammendment-type rights.

Of course, Americans were a lot more spiritually aware in 1892 than they are today.

117 posted on 12/17/2004 5:40:09 PM PST by nightdriver
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The solution isn't always the responsibility or within the purview of government.

Any rights given away are hard to regain.

If Islam is the tool of Satan (I might be wrong but I might be right), think of how we can fight the Evil One. By killing all Muslims or making them all register or even shipping them all back to the land of origin.

...Well, if Satan isn't real, then that might actually work...

However, if Islam is a Satanic tool...we are simply playing into his hands.

He hates, he kills...and he wants us to do the same.

124 posted on 12/17/2004 5:45:47 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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Unless each Muslim (here in America) will publically condemn Osama bin Ladin and alQaida, and be willing to publish his or her name and photo on the Internet stating so, then they should be considered a threat to this country and should be watched.

That might be harsh, but I believe that with nuclear weapons and smallpox now in the mix, we cannot take a chance.

For those who disagree, somehow I doubt we would have allowed Nazi's to practice openly after Germany declared war on the US in WWII. ( I realize there were Nazi sympathizers in the US, but that was BEFORE the war began).


150 posted on 12/17/2004 6:06:25 PM PST by Edit35
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This is very encouraging.


186 posted on 12/17/2004 6:36:39 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Did they go to a Mosque to conduct the poll?


225 posted on 12/17/2004 7:05:16 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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