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To: weenie
If I am not mistaken "Shmuley and Shlomo" both are the same as in Solomon...so no insult intended, whatever the spelling...

Shmuely is a nickname of sorts. Shmuel is Samuel. Shlomo is Solomon.

38 posted on 12/21/2004 4:58:17 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

Thx for you response...from where I am...almost all my heroes are Jewish...(except for Churchill, Reagan and GW)...whether Samuel or Solomon...who could go wrong with either?


40 posted on 12/21/2004 5:01:01 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: af_vet_1981

Shmuly = Samuel
Shlomo = Solomon

I saw the segment and Boteach acknowledged and embraced the support of Evangelical Christians. He also said quite pointedly and was echoed by a female film actress/producer that “Copolla, Scorcese, and Lucas” are not Jewish.

Here is a link to the transcript:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6685898/


Not to offend here but there are big differences in the attitudes of Christian Evangelicals and some Catholics towards Jews. For several reasons. Mr Donohue is part of a sect of traditionalists, as is Mr Gibson, that rejects Vatican II included in which is the “Nostra Aetate” which stated that the Jews of other times should not be blamed for the death of Christ in his own time. This collective guilt had historically been used as a justification for anti-semitism among Catholics.

Further as a general matter Catholic teaching traditionally de-emphasizes the Old Covenant/Testament and has historically at times been rejectionist of it. This relates to the centrality of interpreters of the text to Catholic doctrine. If you take away the OC the value and contribution of the Jewish people go with it.

Just as it is indisputable that there are many secular Jews in Hollywood, it is equally indisputable that the Jews have historically been victims especially of Catholic anti-Semitism, and particularly in the aftermath of Passion Plays and the sentiments they aroused. This is so much so that the Vatican has issued specific guidelines as to the content and presentation of Passion Plays.

As to the general issue Mr Buckley addresses –

is the problem religious differences or the differences between people of faith, any faith, and those who are “secular fundamentalists?”

I agree with his analysis. With religion itself under attack, believers have more in common with each other and preserving values than with non-believers. Charles Krauthammer made the same point in another article posted here this week. Per this article by the neo-liberal Mr Beinart, voters of all faiths in the current election view themselves as part of religious America:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A705-2004Oct26.html


92 posted on 12/22/2004 5:11:08 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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