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ZOT - GA banned from Washington, D.C (but trolls want special privileges)

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:56:03 PM PST by Robinson Winslow

GA banned from Washington, D.C., for inauguration D.C.'s mayor and AOPA's Boyer incensed over closures

For eight hours on Inauguration Day, Washington, D.C., and the skies for miles around it, will be completely off-limits to general aviation. Similarly, the streets of the nation's capital will be closed to vehicular traffic. Security officials have declared that President Bush's inauguration on January 20 is a "national security event," and the FAA, responding to orders from the Defense and Homeland Security departments, has issued a flight advisory prohibiting all general aviation VFR flight within or above the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ).

"This is yet another example of GA being made a scapegoat in the name of security," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. "All the evidence shows that GA aircraft do not pose a significant security threat — especially when compared to the devastation an airliner could cause. Yet the airlines are allowed to fly freely while GA pilots are essentially grounded."

The GA ban is in effect from 10 a.m. through 6 p.m. The only exception is for IFR aircraft landing or departing Washington Dulles International and Baltimore-Washington International airports, but the FAA anticipates that the GA ramps at both airports will fill up with VIP aircraft. Once all the parking is taken, even IFR aircraft will be diverted to airports outside the ADIZ.

AOPA is not alone in questioning the over-the-top security measures surrounding the coming inauguration. Washington Mayor Anthony Williams has complained that multiple checkpoints and street closures imposed in advance of the inauguration are excessive, snarling traffic, damaging businesses, impacting tourism, and choking commerce in the capital city.

"The GA community understands the need for reasonable security measures around the inauguration," Boyer added. "What we don't understand is why the measures being taken for this inauguration are so extreme. These measures are unnecessarily displacing thousands of pilots, restricting their freedom, and resulting in loss of income for those who use GA to conduct their business."

AOPA continues to question the need for the ADIZ at all, arguing that it is an inappropriate "solution" to a nonexistent problem. "A small airplane weighing less than a large SUV and traveling at 120 mph just doesn't pose the same kind of threat — or create as narrow a response window — as a fully loaded airliner traveling at 400 mph," Boyer explained. "The ADIZ simply doesn't reflect those differences. All it does is restrict GA without doing anything to protect Washington and its citizens from terrorists."

January 6, 2005


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I know that the knuckle-draggers who accept everything on this website as "gospel truth" will lisp that a "troll" is attacking their beloved Presidente. But he's the one on the attack here at home. WAKE UP. Even Conservative members of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association are close to nausea at the thought of the Gestapo running our nation indefinitely.
1 posted on 01/08/2005 3:56:04 PM PST by Robinson Winslow
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To: Robinson Winslow
"This is yet another example of GA being made a scapegoat in the name of security," said AOPA President Phil Boyer.

Eat dirt, crybaby.

2 posted on 01/08/2005 3:58:07 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Robinson Winslow

Go away puke.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 4:01:59 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: Robinson Winslow

Son, I say son, you're barking up the wrong tree.


4 posted on 01/08/2005 4:04:31 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Dont they ban Air traffic within 200 miles of a Nascar event. Whats the big deal here? Thousands will be on the streets watching the parade even a Piper cub could make a big dent if it was loaded with a bomb. Try to use a little bit of common sense before calling GA being stopped from flying over DC is a Gestapo tactic.


5 posted on 01/08/2005 4:04:58 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Robinson Winslow

Waaaa.


6 posted on 01/08/2005 4:05:13 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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I don't have a problem with this...at all.

Perhaps you can tell me why it's so important for someone to be able to hop in their Cessna and buzz the inauguration?
7 posted on 01/08/2005 4:05:13 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Common Sense is an Oxymoron)
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To: Robinson Winslow

There was this little thing called "9/11", remember it?


8 posted on 01/08/2005 4:05:58 PM PST by Joey Silvera
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To: Robinson Winslow
"...'A small airplane weighing less than a large SUV and traveling at 120 mph just doesn't pose the same kind of threat — or create as narrow a response window — as a fully loaded airliner traveling at 400 mph,' Boyer explained...."

"Same" kind of threat, no, but a threat nonetheless. I wholeheartedly support aviation, including GA, but public safety and security must be paramount.

The window reopens following the event. A life lost to a nutbag in a light aircraft carrying [ fill in the blank ] is not so fortunate.
9 posted on 01/08/2005 4:06:08 PM PST by Chummy (Liberals -- the other Red meat.)
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To: Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; KangarooJacqui; The Scourge of Yazid; Conspiracy Guy; ...

This might interest you all...


10 posted on 01/08/2005 4:06:37 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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...the Gestapo running our nation indefinitely

Well, I'm not too happy with the arrogance that says Presidential Security can ride roughshod over the taxpayers at will, but it's not exactly a new thing and certainly not just post 9/11.

11 posted on 01/08/2005 4:06:51 PM PST by Grut (is)
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To: sgtbono2002

That would have to be a light bomb, with the Cub's low useful load!


12 posted on 01/08/2005 4:07:18 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Robinson Winslow
That's because they've thrown out almost every Democrat member of their Congressional delegation in the last 20 years...
13 posted on 01/08/2005 4:09:01 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: sgtbono2002
I can't imagine that they close down air traffic 200 miles around a NASCAR event but I could be wrong.

This guy is just being a dope. If he think this amounts to Gestapo-ism, I say give him a dose.

14 posted on 01/08/2005 4:09:11 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Robinson Winslow

"Even Conservative members of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association are close to nausea at the thought of the Gestapo running our nation indefinitely."

Care to back that statement up? Oh, wait. You can't.... you're gone


15 posted on 01/08/2005 4:09:20 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Robinson Winslow

Troll, prepare to meet your mak....oops, you already did!


16 posted on 01/08/2005 4:10:27 PM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: Robinson Winslow
What's wrong with you boy?

9/11... remember ....that.... aircraft used as bombs.... now go away and stop acting like a crybaby.

17 posted on 01/08/2005 4:10:29 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: Admin Moderator

Hooray!!


18 posted on 01/08/2005 4:11:14 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: sgtbono2002

No, air traffic is not banned within 200 miles of NASCAR events.


19 posted on 01/08/2005 4:11:27 PM PST by patton (+)(+)(+)(+)(+)(+)CHUNK!D@MMMMMIT!(+)(+)(+)(+)(+)(+)
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To: Robinson Winslow

Thank you for sharing that.

Heartiest congratulations for ALMOST making it a full week before being shown the door.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 4:12:07 PM PST by SmithL (ex-Boomer Rider)
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