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Publik Skule vs. Home School
Townhall ^ | 1/8/05 | Doug Giles

Posted on 01/08/2005 5:28:17 PM PST by wagglebee

I was sitting at our neighborhood pool New Year’s morning, enjoying the great South Florida weather while trying to grind out a couple of chapters for my new book, when three high school girls took the chaise lounges next to me and started talking about their New Year’s Eve party with their high school mates.

Seemingly still semi-drunk from the party, the 16- and 17-year-old girls began to recount how much coke, weed, vodka, guys and girls they did the night before. Listening to the F-bomb riddled report of the previous night’s peccadilloes left me thinking, how sad … and … what a waste … and … thank God my wife and I yanked our kids out of the public school system and away from these visionless, dissolute and spoiled morons.

It’s been eleven months since we pulled our teenage daughters out of the public school system and started to home school them, and I could kick myself for waiting so long. The educational, emotional, spiritual and physical progress they have made has been amazing. Not that they were anti-intellectual psychologically teetering bloated decadent nut jobs before they started home schooling, it’s just that I’ve been ecstatically stunned at how they have aggressively embraced this new lease on their educational life.

Now … they actually get to study the basics, pursue their educational and athletic interests, without waiting for the 186% overcrowded class to decide to cease fighting and copulating long enough that the teacher can teach the students how to write their name so that they can endorse their unemployment check later on in life.

Also, it seems that our alpha females really do not miss . . .
· Having everything they hold dear from a Christian standpoint trashed like a hotel room with Sum41 in it, by secular and atheistic teachers and students,
· Enduring the daily physical assaults and threats made by the multitudinous scum bag thugs and punk gang bangers on campus,
· Watching the constant drug trafficking, and
· Trying to ignore the lesbian, queer and over-the-top heterosexual make-out sessions during their lunch break.

Instead of being the goofy-looking home-schooled inbred stooges portrayed by TV and movies, my ladies are sharp, solid and full of holy chutzpah. Yeah … they’re clipping along at a nice pace, taking classes like macro-economics, logic, Latin, intelligence and national security, and afterward, pursuing the martial art of jiu-jitsu from the world-famous Gracie family, surfing and occasionally going with me big game hunting and fishing. Getting away from the prison-like public school system has caused their spirit and vision to soar even higher as they have resolutely separated from the pack and decided to run their own lives, rather than schlep with the lemmings.

My ClashPoint is this: parent . . . home schooling isn’t as tough as you think it is. With the advent of online virtual schools, plus the tens of thousands of people who have bailed out of the system, there are afforded to you, the home schooling parent and student, amazing resources, local networks of like-minded families and world-class curricula, to help you help yours be the leaders God intends for them to be.

Initially, I was a bit concerned about how home schooling was going to work within the insanity which is the Giles household, but it has been relatively painless. The adjustments my wife and I have had to make to our routine to accommodate our daughters for greatness are far less painful than the worry and concern we had sending them off to the monkey jungle which is the Public School system.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: PleaseNoMore
"Gasp! This sounds just like the history that my kids are learning. In a public school of all places. How can your child's school be superior to my kid's school when it looks to me as if they are almost identical in practice. Oh, I forgot, there are children in my kids' school who don't go to church and therefore are evil. And, you also have to consider that there are some kids in my childrens' schools who are neglected or poor so that diminishes the quality of the school too. Ok, you win. Because all of the children that attend your daughter's school are perfect little angels from perfect homes with perfect parents your school is better. /sarcasm"

LOL! I'm sure kids in your school salute the Christina flag, hear Bible stories and memorize verses, have Chapel and actively endorse Christianity. LOL! It doesn't happen in ANY public school.

"Oh, I forgot, there are children in my kids' school who don't go to church and therefore are evil."

There you go again pointing to an extreme to try to justify your decision of sending your child to a secular public school. You're way too defensive.

"And, you also have to consider that there are some kids in my childrens' schools who are neglected or poor so that diminishes the quality of the school too."

There you go again! Trying to use class and poor parenting to better yourself. Do you really think a public school cares about these kids? They don't. We have kids on a scholarship type program based on financial need. In other words there is some criteria to be met in order to have a reduced tuition. Parents like myself don't mind subsidizing that but we can't accommodate all since resources are finite. I guarantee you that you cannot pick out the kids in this special financial program. They are treated as equals and loved for who they are not their race or economic status.

"Ok, you win. Because all of the children that attend your daughter's school are perfect little angels from perfect homes with perfect parents your school is better. /sarcasm"

This is the type of attitude that even I don't want to be around nor my child. Even at her tender age she wouldn't reply with something so sarcastic - that's because we don't endorse this at home nor does her school.
481 posted on 01/09/2005 10:56:58 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: annyokie; nmh
According to nmh, she knows everything there is to know about "people like us". IMO, she is an idiot, a bigoted one at that, and exposes herself as such publicly.

Oh nmh, since I am one to follow protocol I pinged you to this reply. I want to include the definition of the word bigot for you lest you try to warp my words around your petty fingers and twist them into something that wasn't even implied.

bigot - One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

This sums you up hon.

482 posted on 01/09/2005 10:57:42 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
Review your own replies and attitude towards our values/beliefs. You may not even realize it ... .
483 posted on 01/09/2005 10:58:08 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: PleaseNoMore

I couldn't have said it any better. Are you sure you're children are not attending school in the same district as my daughter?????


484 posted on 01/09/2005 10:59:18 AM PST by Gabz
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To: PleaseNoMore

"How nmh? Again, I challenge you to find any deraogatory remarks I have made regarding Christians. I think that you are looking to be a victim. You are creating offenses out of nowhere. You are delusional."

Your excerpt of replies is hardly representational of your attitude. You really don't see it ... it's become a part of you ... nah, I'm no "victim" ... and derogatory name calling "delusional" only drives my point home.


485 posted on 01/09/2005 11:00:37 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
LOL! I'm sure kids in your school salute the Christina flag, hear Bible stories and memorize verses, have Chapel and actively endorse Christianity. LOL! It doesn't happen in ANY public school.

Have you been to ALL public schools? We do have bible classes in our schools here. No, they don't salute the Christian flag but they do learn the bible and actively endorse Christianity. The churches and schools here have excellent working relationships.

To the rest of your reply...bull hockey...

486 posted on 01/09/2005 11:01:37 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

"You need help. For the sake of your children, seek it."

There you go again ... name calling and you wonder why people don't want to "mix" with you.


487 posted on 01/09/2005 11:01:40 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

What you think others thought while writing may disagree with what you thought while writing but, to presume to know these things so well that you "remember" what you want is called 'projection.'


488 posted on 01/09/2005 11:01:54 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: Liberty Wins
If the education establishment was simply a bunch of lazy people that didn't really care about anything but getting paid, then I'd support your bureaucratic theory. However this bunch is a LOT worse. They actively oppose improvement and actively support dumbing down.

Look at California in the 90s. Ron Unz (who later led the drive to eliminate Bilingual Education) heard about a protest from a bunch of Hispanics regarding Bi-Lingual education. They were protesting the fact that their kids were being taught in Spanish, not English, and this was wrecking their chances to join the mainstream of this country. The parents had to protest in front of their own kid's school because they could not get their kids enrolled in English-language classes!!! Deal with that.

As to conspiracy theories, on Bilingual Education (in its Spanish-only form), I do subscibe to a conspiracy theory. I think the libs see the Hispanic population of this country as up for grabs, and fear that they would integrate and join our mainstream, once they master English, just like Italians, Asians, and others. If you prevent them from getting fluent in English, they stay a minority, beholden to the Dems.

While I'm willing to give the founders of Bilingual Education a pass for their intentions (teach kids in their home language, then ease them into English), once Bilingual Education was implemented as Spanish-language education, and it was obvious no serious attempt was being made to mainstream these kids, then I can't help believing in the conspiracy side. When even Hispanic parents oppose bi-lingual education, who's left supporting it - a bunch of Dems (white and Hispanics), desperately clinging to power.

While overall, I discount an intentional conspiracy theory regarding education, I will stick to my conspiracy thoughts on Bilingual Education - unless someone can give me a better answer.
489 posted on 01/09/2005 11:02:21 AM PST by BobL
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To: PleaseNoMore

"What do you know about logic? No much is evident."

Two opposing opinions are not both true at the same time as you would like to believe.


490 posted on 01/09/2005 11:02:41 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: PleaseNoMore; nmh

From all I have read of her postings on various threads, she deserves her very own Holier Than Thou forum.

If she is what passes for a Christian Conservative, I think it is time for her to go to a retreat and reflect on her bigotry.


492 posted on 01/09/2005 11:03:24 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: PleaseNoMore

I'm no "sister" of yours.

I leave you to review your replies and do some soul searching on your own time. You are way too combative for a rational exchange.


493 posted on 01/09/2005 11:03:48 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: PleaseNoMore; annyokie

My FRiend, you are doing a bang-up job dealing with them yourself.

If enough of us who are utilizing the public schools in our area and working to keep them good stick together, we may very well be able to get some others to accept the reality that ALL public schools are not bad and all parents who send their kids to them are not bad parents.

Those advocating the total abandonment of the public school system in an effort to do away with it must realize they may actually be doing more harm than good.


494 posted on 01/09/2005 11:04:15 AM PST by Gabz
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To: PleaseNoMore

"It's not a convoulted mess. To the contrary, it is an orderly sequence of events that took place on this thread last night. If it's convoluted to you then I suggest that you go back to Reading Comp 101 and come back when you can play with the adults."

There you go again ... name calling ... yawn.

Believe whatever you wish!


495 posted on 01/09/2005 11:05:05 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh; PleaseNoMore; Gabz

Wow! The one person on the forum who is conversant with every single public school in the land! And she graces us with her infinate wisdom.


496 posted on 01/09/2005 11:06:40 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Gabz; FierceDraka; Howlin; Ginifer; exnavychick; Tempest; TheBigB; JeffAtlanta; NCPAC; Long Cut; ...

Done, and done.

Welcome! I'll try to get to mailing everyone a copy of the list, as I am not always here.

;-)


497 posted on 01/09/2005 11:08:10 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: nmh

Why don't you go ahead and point out all of the "observations" that you have made. You are so sure of yourself that you make public statements about such. Back those statements up with facts. You can't so that makes you a LIAR.


498 posted on 01/09/2005 11:08:45 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: The Coopster

Thanks! A Happy New Year to you and yours!


499 posted on 01/09/2005 11:09:58 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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