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Today Show: Newt's Price of Admission to MSM to Tout Prez Candidacy: Swipes at W over Iraq
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 01/12/2005 5:45:02 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 01/12/2005 7:09:10 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 01/12/2005 5:45:02 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show pact-with-the-MSM-devil ping.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 5:45:56 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Interesting. Thanks for the briefing.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 5:50:46 AM PST by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In order to get MSM face time a Rep must attack W or the Party.

John McCampaign does it all the time!


4 posted on 01/12/2005 5:53:01 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nice job and thanks.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 5:53:29 AM PST by sarasota
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The seduction of the press. I'll never understand the need for approval.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 5:53:35 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: funkywbr
In order to get MSM face time a Rep must attack W or the Party. John McCampaign does it all the time!

Good point, and the perfect example. Chuck Hagel, an otherwise obscure Senator from Nebraska, also gets inordinate MSM face time by pulling the same stunt.

7 posted on 01/12/2005 5:54:29 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The people of America will NEVER elect a first lady named Callista..


8 posted on 01/12/2005 5:54:38 AM PST by ken5050
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Except Newt needs Republican support to go anywhere, which he won't get by becoming McCain-lite.


9 posted on 01/12/2005 5:54:50 AM PST by JacksonCalhoun (012005: dah dah-dah DAH dah-dah dah-dah-dah-dah DAH DAH)
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To: Peach
The seduction of the press. I'll never understand the need for approval.

Here, the need is very understandable. As I suggested, Newt figured out early that the only way he could get significant MSM play to tout his presidential candidacy was to be willing to attack W over Iraq.

10 posted on 01/12/2005 5:55:51 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: JacksonCalhoun
Except Newt needs Republican support to go anywhere, which he won't get by becoming McCain-lite.

True. Newt must walk a fine line. He must be just critical enough of W to appease the MSM gods, while not so critical as to anger conservative Republican primary voters. I think he handled the situation rather artfully this morning. Clearly he doesn't have the visceral dislike of W that McCain does.

11 posted on 01/12/2005 5:57:53 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
There is no evidence we can beat insurgents. We don't have the intelligence or the necessary Iraqi forces."

Mr. Newt is really off the mark here.

So now I know why Brit Hume said yesterday on his show that "Washington is buzzing with words that we cannot win the war in Iraq". Is Mr. Newt creating some trouble here?

Anyway Brit had General Scales on his show yesterday to rebut this lie that we are losing the war in Iraq. General Sacles made a very compelling and very strong case that this insurgency is doomed to lose because it has a support of a small minority of the Iraqi population (a minority among the Arab Sunni who are minority to start with). He said that the urgency does not have the geographical depth, they do not have the leadership, they do not have a defined plan and cause. He said that their is a lot of over exaggeration of the power of the Sunni insurgency, that many people are using the word of insurgency very loosely when it realy does not aply in Iraq, and that things in Iraq are no way as bad as the media is portraying.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 5:59:33 AM PST by jveritas
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Site Meter
Newt is NOT going to run... give it up.
13 posted on 01/12/2005 6:00:03 AM PST by KMC1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
There is no evidence we can beat insurgents. We don't have the intelligence or the necessary Iraqi forces."

This is the same as saying we cannot win the war on terror so we should appease them so they won't hit us again.

Newt will go over very big in France!

14 posted on 01/12/2005 6:00:10 AM PST by rocksblues (Sgt. Rafael Peralta, American Hero, Everyone should know his name.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It wasn't just yesterday that Newt pretty much wiped out any good he might have done. This is icing on the cake.


15 posted on 01/12/2005 6:00:37 AM PST by niteowl77 (Socialist: someone who can't find his ass despite using other peoples' hands in addition to his own.)
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To: edskid
Even Rush Limbaugh is ticked off at Newt Gingrich. I heard two days ago complaining why Newt is doing this.
16 posted on 01/12/2005 6:02:32 AM PST by jveritas
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Exactly. Sort of like prostitution though.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 6:03:12 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: KMC1
Site Meter Newt is NOT going to run... give it up.

Don't know if your "give it up" was directed at me or Newt, but Gingrich is obviously doing all the things a would-be candidate does: writes a book and visiting IA and NH, and letting the tenor of the entire interview be "gee are you gonna run?"

18 posted on 01/12/2005 6:05:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The old media would LOVE to see Newt run for the GOP nomination -- and win the nomination. They know he can't win in a general election. The old media would sing Newt's praises up through his nomination, then they would turn on him and tear him apart.

Somebody needs to sit down and tell Newt that although his ideas and input are welcome, he doesn't have the "right stuff" to win the presidency and that his criticism of Bush will alienate him from the base.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 6:12:01 AM PST by randita
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To: JacksonCalhoun
You say Newt needs Republican support to go anywhere. I think you are correct if one believes Newt is considering himself as a conventional candidate.

I believe he is posturing himself as a conservative populist or the redeemer of common sense and traditional values. It all hinges on how he positions himself with respect to national security, borders, language, culture, and the criminal alien problem.

If he thinks he will get 15% of the electorate and the GOP snubs him then look for him to go the way of Ross Perot. Many of us on this forum for the past year has considered the third party option, not that I want or many want, but because the GOP is not conservative enough where we need them (CFR signing, $15b to Africa for AIDs, etc.). If Newt goes the way of the populist and the third party then the GOP will be toast for the next eight years. This is a shot across the bow of the GWB administration, I hope.
20 posted on 01/12/2005 6:12:16 AM PST by Final Authority
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