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To: pythagorean
So, Pythagorean, the Serbs in Kosovo are the moral equivalent to the Americans in Iraq. Sounds like somebody’s been busy reading their Chomsky again! Well, let's break it down. In Kosovo, when the Serbs went in [a]pproximately 863,000 civilians sought or were forced into refuge outside Kosovo and an additional 590,000 were internally displaced" making 1,453,000 or close to 90% of the Kosovar-Albanian population driven from their homes out of a pre-war population of about 1.7 million. In Iraq, with a population of 25,000,000; when the Americans went in, the refugees going out never materialized and instead, most of the 200,000 Iraqi refugees Hussein previously drove into Iran have now returned. So its real easy for you, here's the comparison: Serbs in Kosovo= refugees out, Americans in Iraq = refugees return.

Since YOU brought this up, lets take a look at some other comparisons, like what was left of the schools in Kosovo after the Serbs were done: UNICEF survey finds half of Kosovo's primary schools destroyed or severely damaged. versus Iraq where we find "the U.S. military reconstructing 2,000 schools". Another simple comparison: Serbs in Kosovo = destroyed schools, Americans in Iraq = new schools.

Then there are the 700,000 Kosovar Albanians whose homes were damaged or destroyed, to include 50,000 beyond repair in the Serbs ethnic cleansing campaign. And as Colonel Crosland testified earlier: “…the very small hamlet of Prilep on the Decani-Djakovica road was probably 40 to 50 centimetres high; all the houses been bulldozed flat. That is the level of destruction we're talking about, and that was throughout.” Let’s compare that to Fallujah, the worst damaged town in Iraq, a place where an actual battle was fought: ”Residents who fled the city will be allowed to re-enter their neighborhoods after security is complete, rubble and sewage are cleared and humanitarian aid is available, Maj. M. Naomi Hawkins of the U.S. 4th Civil Affairs Group said. Restoration will take place in a section-by-section process, with the first areas re-opening within two weeks, she said. Civilians will be paid $2,500 per home for damage repair, she said, and Marines have allotted $40 million for death claims and reconstruction. The U.S. government has set aside $89.12 million for 99 specific U.S.-sponsored projects scheduled to begin in Falluja…” So, Serbs in Kosovo = deliberately destroyed villages. Americans in Iraq = Millions to rebuild battle-damaged towns.

As for civilian casualties, I’ll go with 6,000 in Kosovo, but I’m open if you want to adjust that up or down some. Given the respective populations of Kosovo and Iraq, that’s the equivalent of about 83,000 Iraqis. But first, Pythagorean, why don’t you tell me how many civilians the United States has killed in Iraq so we can make a comparison?

14 posted on 01/19/2005 6:45:28 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
Nobody knows for sure how many Iraqi civilians have been killed. The U.S. army does not keep track, or at least does not want the public to know. A recent report from Johns Hopkins published in Lancet estimates 100,000 civilian deaths caused by the war. Nevertheless, taking a cue from the politically manipulated and now discredited laughable "studies" claiming "more than 200,000 dead in Bosnia", "10,000 dead" or "900,000 displaced" in Kosovo, I might be willing to accept that the Hopkins study is probably not worth the paper it is written on.

Concerning the destroyed schools in Kosovo, why would the Serbian state destroy schools that it itself built by subsidies from Belgrade? In fact many of these schools were bombed by NATO, ostensibly because they might be used by Yugoslav forces, but in reality because NATO, being incompetent in locating tanks and other moving targets, was busy destroying the civilian infrastructure not only in Kosovo but throughout Serbia. This was, as you know, a war crime for which, if international law was taken seriously, the whole NATO leadership, starting with Wesley Clark and Bill Clinton, would now be in jail and billions of dollars would be paid to Serbia for compensation. Not to mention the more than 500 dead civilians in Serbia proper, another achievement of NATO's brave, 25,000-feet high flying bomber pilots.

15 posted on 01/19/2005 8:32:45 PM PST by pythagorean
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