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To: Modernman
Christians can't even agree on the correctness of this statement.

Sure, you can find anamolies. I can find people who claim to be strong republicans and favor abortion, big government, high taxation, etc. They are the exception, not the rule, and their beliefs have no effect on true conservative principles.

Any Christian on this thread believe that salvation is through works?

200 posted on 01/26/2005 11:38:23 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
LOL

First you talk about "True Christians", now you are talking about "true conservatives"

I think I got it, if they think like you, they are True conservatives or Christians.

210 posted on 01/26/2005 11:44:53 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: GLDNGUN

"Any Christian on this thread believe that salvation is through works?"

Probably not. The book of James, however, seems appropriate to mention here. If someone is a Christian, surely that belief will be reflected in their "works." A Christian would naturally be inclined to imitate Christ, and so would behave accordingly.

That does not mean that their "works" are the source of their salvation. Rather, their "works" are the evidence of their committment to a walk in Jesus' footsteps.

That's my understanding of the concept, anyhow.

It's impossible to deny that many atheists do "works" that cannot be distinguished from those of Christians. Anyone who knows more than a couple of atheists can attest to that.

So, what's the difference between the "works?" I say that there is no difference. The atheist does them because they are right to do. The Christian does them for the same reason, not to "build up treasures," but because they are right to do.

The bottom line is that there are good and evil people in both camps. While it's easy to say that someone doing bad things cannot really be a Christian, many claim to be such. The atheist who does good things cannot claim those acts to be because of his atheism, either.

What a person does...how a person behaves...is independent of his religious claims. I can watch a person and see how he or she behaves in a situation and decide whether that person is doing the right thing or the wrong thing. I cannot deduce from that what that person's religion might be, however.

The Samaritan's story is apt here.


220 posted on 01/26/2005 11:48:53 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: GLDNGUN
Any Christian on this thread believe that salvation is through works?

Both Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe that works are part of the requirement for salvation.

237 posted on 01/26/2005 11:54:06 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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