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>> Nice objective comparison. I guess murderers are atheists and Christians are good people.<<

No, but religious people have "remorse" for immoral deeds. To a true atheist, the word "moral" really has no meaning. He may claim it does, but he is lying - or he is really not an atheist. As I said, the main character in Natural Born Killers is how a TRUE atheist lives his life.

religious people have "remorse" for immoral deeds. To a true atheist, the word "moral" really has no meaning

You can assert that religious people have 'remorse', but that does not make it so. Some do, some don't. As is the same with atheists.

Do you somehow think of atheists as unfeeling, unable to feel compassion?

Why do you claim that a atheist cannot believe in morals?

I am proud to not be a TRUE atheist by your definition then.

Your argument is that since there is no higher power to judge, there is no right and wrong for atheists. And for those that THINK there is, they are lying to themselves? Therefore, atheists cannot aspire to have honor, nor integrity, nor any other positive trait because you do not see the motivation behind it?

I am an atheist. Have been for a long, long time. Haven't killed anyone, do not steal, try not to lie, feel remorse like any human should when things go wrong, get teary-eyed when I read/hear about people sacrificing their lives to protect others, and treat every other living thing around me like I would want to be treated... and yet by your definition I'm a hardened criminal on the inside?

I submit that life is more precious to some atheists BECAUSE this is all we have. To me, there is no time for judgement, there is no making up for the wrongs we do in this life after it's over, and that makes our time here MORE valuable. But that's just me, I guess.

"No, but religious people have "remorse" for immoral deeds. To a true atheist, the word "moral" really has no meaning. He may claim it does, but he is lying - or he is really not an atheist. As I said, the main character in Natural Born Killers is how a TRUE atheist lives his life.
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That's just silly. Of course atheists have moral values. I learned mine at my mother's and father's knees. They're probably identical to yours, and carry the same weight for me.

This argument you're using is not well reasoned. One needn't have a higher power to have moral values. Such values are taught by societies, as well as religions.

Perhaps you fear that if you did not believe that you would do all sorts of horrible things. Perhaps that is true, in your case. In mine, I can't imagine going against my moral values. I don't fear myself, and nobody needs to fear me, unless they attack me or my family with intent to do bodily harm.

I will never steal your stuff. I won't sleep with your wife. I'll help you out if I find you in a bad situation, if I'm able to.

Atheists are just like everyone else. They behave well, if they have learned moral values. They behave badly, if they have not.