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Wyoming Tops Suicide List
Cheyenne Wyoming Tribune-Eagle ^ | 02-02-05 | Orr, Becky

Posted on 02/02/2005 5:59:35 AM PST by Theodore R.

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To: Melas

In America you get to live where you choose to live. Rural America isn't for everyone, neither is urban America -- though pretty much everyone likes Four Seasons Hotels.


41 posted on 02/02/2005 3:45:13 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: antiunion person
Sounds to me like we need to move all the liberals from Berkeley, San Franfreako, hollywierd, and Washington DC to Wyoming. Then the whole country would be red except a big blue spot in Wyoming.

Not on my property you don't!! LOL!

42 posted on 02/02/2005 3:45:26 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: durasell
The worst part for me was lack of diversity. I don't mean racial, religious, or cultural diversity, but just a mix of people that those of us in the city take for granted. Things you wouldn't even think about, like other people who like sci-fi, or motorcycles etc.

Small towns tend to be realllllllly homogeneous. Everyone hunts, fishes and goes to the high school football games for recreation. Finding someone with an interest beyond those things proved impossible to me. Nothing wrong with hunting, fishing, or football mind you, but my interests just aren't there.

43 posted on 02/02/2005 3:48:39 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

Speaking as a New Yorker with some experience with small towns and small town people -- I'd say they remain part of our cultural heritage as well as American myth.

We ignore tham at our peril...

However, I need the diversity, the chinese food and the 24 hour bodegas/korean delis, but I understand the appeal of small towns.


44 posted on 02/02/2005 3:52:15 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
41 Hawaii (31T)..........................9.6.............120
42 California (46T)......................9.2..........3,228
42 Delaware (16).........................9.2..............74
44 Illinois (43)...........................9.1..........1,145
45 Maryland (44)........................8.7.............477
46 Rhode Island (45)...................8.0..............86
47 Connecticut (46T)...................7.5.............260
48 Massachusetts (50)..................6.8.............436
49 New Jersey (49)......................6.4.............553
49 New York (51).......................6.4..........1,228
51 District of Columbia (48).........5.4..............31

There has got to be a reason why the solidly blue states are like this. I'll theorize that the liverals living in Red States are driven to suicide, while Conservatives cope relatively well anywhere. Democrats living in blue states are in their own little socialist paradices.

45 posted on 02/02/2005 3:53:26 PM PST by Diverdogz
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To: Melas
This will come to a shock to more than a couple of freepers who think living in rural America is just short of living in heaven itself, but the suicide rates in rural America far outstrips that of urban America.

I am among those who despise life in densely populated areas.

But were I condemned to live the rest of my life in a landlocked state, I'd want to do myself in, too.

46 posted on 02/02/2005 3:55:14 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Diverdogz

Some things don't translate into politics. Trying to find political meaning in the list probably isn't a good idea. There are factors, as pointed out, such as climate, landscape, population patterns, etc. etc. etc.


47 posted on 02/02/2005 3:56:16 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

I don't know what you mean by "American myth" but it certainly has me intrigued. Please explain.


48 posted on 02/02/2005 3:58:34 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas
Small towns tend to be realllllllly homogeneous. Everyone hunts, fishes and goes to the high school football games for recreation. Finding someone with an interest beyond those things proved impossible to me. Nothing wrong with hunting, fishing, or football mind you, but my interests just aren't there.

I grew up in Casper. I read SiFi, we had a "mad scientists club", built tesla coils, converted a TV to an o-scope, did ham radio, had star parties, etc. I never liked football, have never once been on a horse, don't like to fish, etc.

Even in rural Wyoming I fould folks with my interests. My three best friends from Casper ended up as a Professor in Ohio, a software engineer in SanFran, and a physicist at MIT.

49 posted on 02/02/2005 3:59:52 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Age of Reason
I am among those who despise life in densely populated areas.

See, the country needs both of us. I despise life in remote rural areas. I need the city.

50 posted on 02/02/2005 3:59:59 PM PST by Melas
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To: Diverdogz

Seacoast. Almsot all on the ocean.


51 posted on 02/02/2005 4:01:17 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Melas

BTW, I would never move back to Casper. LOL!

I too like the big city.


52 posted on 02/02/2005 4:01:32 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Melas

The most obvious American myth is that of the Western...people don't generally recognize it, but the American Western book/movie/music is an American art form as much as jazz, certain types of theater or the immigrant story.

Take the issues tackled in the typical paperback western novel -- good, evil, self-reliance (a favorite theme of Ralph Waldo Emerson)and opportunity -- those are distinctive American themes.


53 posted on 02/02/2005 4:03:06 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: RadioAstronomer
In fairness, you grew up in a small to mid-sized city in a mostly rural state. The problems I referred to in the post you responded to concerned life in a town of 882, that was 50 miles away from a city the size of Casper (Lufkin), and 22 miles away from a town of 7,000.

Things were a little better when I moved to the town of 7,000 but not much. If I'd lived in Lufkin, which is about the size of Casper, I'd probably have suffered a lot less from the experience.

54 posted on 02/02/2005 4:03:47 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas
I despise life in remote rural areas.

I too despise life in remote rural areas, if those areas are not a combination of forest and ocean.

But I despise life in cities ocean or no ocean.

I am glad most people like to live in cities, as there is precious little rural seacoast left in America.

And by the time I have grown old and am gone, there will be none left (except maybe in Alaska, if they don't drill, that is).

55 posted on 02/02/2005 4:04:58 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Alberta's Child; BenLurkin
And Calgary is legendary for the wind -- "where every day is a 'bad hair day'."

Ha! When we lived in Newhall, California before here, we were geographically at the edge of a wind-funnel - a mountain pass that let the high pressure from inland squeeeeeze through into the San Fernando Valley.

It was horrible - the unofficial motto for the Newhall Pass was, "the wind doesn't blow in Newhall, it sucks".

56 posted on 02/02/2005 4:06:24 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: durasell

Oh, I agree. I'll have to say I am suprised that list.


57 posted on 02/02/2005 4:10:08 PM PST by Diverdogz
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To: BluH2o

I spent a night in a motel in Laramie. I was one of the only guests as it was wintertime. The whole town was scary--no people to be seen. Nothing to see but snow, ice and the frigid wind blew at 50 MPH non-stop. I could hardly wait to get to Utah to see signs of humans and some mountain vistas. Little wonder they off themselves in Wyoming.


58 posted on 02/02/2005 4:10:10 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Diverdogz

The list of art forms or suicides?


59 posted on 02/02/2005 4:11:18 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Age of Reason
Seacoast. Almsot all on the ocean.

Thats an idea. Florida would be an anomoly. (perhaps depressed elderly people?)

60 posted on 02/02/2005 4:12:42 PM PST by Diverdogz
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