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To: Cronos
depends on what you mean by "civilization."

"brown" and "yellow" men in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Canaan, India, China

Theres a good argument that none of those cultures were "civilized" by current standards.

Again, human sacrifice, slavery, misogyny are not aspects of civilization, as we know it today.

91 posted on 02/05/2005 7:40:50 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Phsstpok
Theres a good argument that none of those cultures were "civilized" by current standards.

And by what standards are those? Having a codified set of laws? Well, the Babylonians had that in 1700 B.C. with Hammurabi's laws. Having a detailed town-planning system? Well the Harappans in the Indus valley and the Mesopotamians ahd that.

By what means would you then say they were not civilised???

Again, human sacrifice, slavery, misogyny are not aspects of civilization, as we know it today.
BBy those standards let's see -- the Mesopotamians, Chinese, Egyptians and Indians didn't really have human sacrifice as part of their standard, acceptable traditions -- you're getting mixed up with the Aztecs. Slavery -- by that standard Rome was not civilised, and all of Europe and the Americas were not civilised until the 1800s. Misogyny -- women only got hte right to vote int eh 20th century, so no country was civilised until then????
147 posted on 02/05/2005 10:27:25 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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