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Shias demand sharia law for constitution
AP, AFP ^ | February 07, 2005

Posted on 02/07/2005 6:39:13 AM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9

"The surprise statement was issued by Sheikh Ibrahim Ibrahimi, a representative of Ayatollah Mohammad Ishaq al-Fayad, a member of the marja. "All the ulema (clergy) and marja, and the majority of the Iraqi people, want the national assembly to make Islam the source of legislation in the constitution and to reject any law that is contrary to Islam," the statement said."

This is no surprise to me, but what did surprise me is that so many people who should have known better never saw it coming.


41 posted on 02/07/2005 7:05:45 AM PST by DJ Taylor
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To: presidio9

Of course Sistani only meant the "Religion of Peace" part?


42 posted on 02/07/2005 7:07:23 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: douglas1

I don't like cats but I would not wish that on them. The clerics. That's fine.


43 posted on 02/07/2005 7:08:35 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: presidio9
senior cleric last night set out radical demands that Islam be the sole source of legislation in the country's new constitution.

as opposed to

the final version completed last March said Islam should be "a source" of legislation. No law that "contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam" would be accepted, the final draft of the "fundamental law" stated

Is this way different? I'm not sure...

44 posted on 02/07/2005 7:13:07 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: presidio9
Beltway Rumor:

A White House janitor heard a loud voice yelling, "Sistani isn't following the freaking play book!. Didn't he get Cheney's memo?"

I could have told them this would happen. But nobody listens to me anyway. I'm just a disabled guy living in The Peoples' Republic of Oregon. Oh, well . . . whatever.

45 posted on 02/07/2005 7:13:32 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Mikey_1962
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Shias demand sharia law for constitution, Mikey_1962 wrote:

Why not two systems at the discretion of the accused to choose?

Simple. Because one of those systems actively promotes the murder of those who don't abide by it. I'll give you one guess which one that is ...

46 posted on 02/07/2005 7:20:03 AM PST by cooldog (Islam is a criminal conspiracy to commit mass murder ... deal with it!)
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To: presidio9
shock, surprise

The Bush administration isn't shocked or surprised on this turn of events.

It's called a power play after the election. They are throwing bones to the Islamic radicals in the country.

The surprise statement was issued by Sheikh Ibrahim Ibrahimi, a representative of Ayatollah Mohammad Ishaq al-Fayad, a member of the marja. "All the ulema (clergy) and marja, and the majority of the Iraqi people, want the national assembly to make Islam the source of legislation in the constitution and to reject any law that is contrary to Islam," the statement said.

Ayatollah Mohammad Ishaq al-Fayad is playing to the Al Sadr radicals.

47 posted on 02/07/2005 7:23:53 AM PST by Popman
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To: presidio9

"sharia is only applicable to Muslims"; "under Islamic law there is no separation of church and state"

Not a good thing.


48 posted on 02/07/2005 7:27:24 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: presidio9

If Sistani insists on this crapola, then it's time to create Kurdistan. Sharia is only another name for theocracy, where the mullahs rule behind whatever "democratic" front machinery is in place.

JMO.


49 posted on 02/07/2005 7:28:15 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: MortMan

"then it's time to create Kurdistan"

...and then it's time for Turkey to invade.


50 posted on 02/07/2005 7:29:54 AM PST by DJ Taylor
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To: Little Ray
Tell me again why we left Sadr and Sistrani alive?

Because if we "remove" these two guys we will have completely ruined any chance of a peaceful Iraq.

Remove Sistanai and you will see a real uprising the likes we could not contain.

These two guys represent the extremes of Islamic politics in Iraq. Sadr is the fire breathing holy warrior, Sistrani is the elder Islamic statesman.

51 posted on 02/07/2005 7:30:32 AM PST by Popman
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To: presidio9

If this party wins under false pretenses (we can call them the Taqiyya (sp?) Party), then it is not a true election.

As far-fetched as it may seem, they should probably vote all over again, knowing the truth about this party.

Although, come to think of it, this happens with every election in Canada. The liberals lie their heads off and take over and do what they want. Yet we keep voting for them!


52 posted on 02/07/2005 7:31:30 AM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: bahblahbah

Yeah, but one drawback...we would have to hire consultants from the Democratic party...


53 posted on 02/07/2005 7:33:41 AM PST by Edgerunner (Please forgive me for I am not as clever as many of you.)
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To: McGavin999; presidio9
All they are saying is that they want no law passed that will be in conflict with the Koran. Just as the US Constitution was based on Christian/Jewish principles (i.e.the bible) they are asking for the same thing.

Except for the little tidbit that Islam is not quite as tolerant about human freedom and liberty as Christianity can be.

54 posted on 02/07/2005 7:44:47 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: presidio9

"No law that "contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam" would be accepted ... "

So ... honor killings ... the word of one man being equal to the word of two women ... the obligation to kill infidels ... the insane idea of seventy virgins ... all the contributions to civilization revealed in the holy Koran will be preserved in the constitution. The cesspool of Islam continues to fester.


55 posted on 02/07/2005 8:09:54 AM PST by layman
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Iraq The Model is saying this is false.


56 posted on 02/07/2005 8:37:56 AM PST by oolatec
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To: em2vn
"Who didn't see this coming?"

Apparently most of the posters on this thread. I have said repeatedly that the ordinary Iraqi doesn't want freedom, they want an Islamic theocracy.

Even worse, the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds all want to control the govt. and civil war will break out as soon as US troops leave. Thats why US troops will be there for the foreseeable future.
57 posted on 02/07/2005 9:10:33 AM PST by monday
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
IRAQ'S Shiite leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, and another senior cleric last night set out radical demands that Islam be the sole source of legislation in the country's new constitution.

So we can go back in there in 20 years and have to do this crap all over again?

I don't think so!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

59 posted on 02/07/2005 9:14:50 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
Yes. But if the people of Iraq democratically and freely choose to adopt crazy Islamic Extremist policies that end up threatening the US someday, then we can at least hold the people responsible for their bad gov't.

In short, if the Iraqi people use the Democratic process to become another Taliban-dominated country that harnors terrorists that harm America, then we can, in good conscience, bomb them out of existence.

It is harder, these days, to make war against an entire people when they are under the domination of tyrants who were never freely elected.

60 posted on 02/07/2005 9:49:48 AM PST by Montfort
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