Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo

UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

[WildTurkey]

Is their religion nonsense?

We have had at least two YEC'ers say that they hold these views inspite of differing views by their pastors and Churches.

[garybob]

Please provide us a link to a science website that says anything remotely backing your ridiculous assertion.

Ah, another bad tempered evolutionist heard from....for your information, you're referencing the wrong post...so follow the thread from the top and then you'll be informed. Besides all that, I wasn't talking to you so take your vitrol elsewhere.

[WildTurkey]

Please provide us a link to a science website that says anything remotely backing your ridiculous assertion.

[garybob]

I asked whether you were ignorant or a disruptive troll. Only one or the other would paste such cr@p.

The vitriol and nastyness has been exclusively coming from you.You are completely unable to maintain a civil discourse with people you disagree with. That being the case, you need to go elsewhere since you are unable to handle conversations where others do not share your viewpoint.

[garybob]

Please provide us a link to a science website that says anything remotely backing your ridiculous assertion.

Hard to do since I've made no ridiculous assertions, only replying to them.

[WildTurkey]

The vitriol and nastyness has been exclusively coming from you.You are completely unable to maintain a civil discourse with people you disagree with.

We keep hearing that man-from-ape stuff 10 times a day. It is false and you are either ignorant or disruptive to post it.

[Alacarte]

for your information, you're referencing the wrong post...

Oh sorry, is it this comment?

What has occurred to me is that evolution is mathmatically impossible. Hence my example in post 664. To accept the theory that a species could evolve along certain paths, leaving the original species intact in the present day is to accept sheer lunacy.

Or this one maybe?

The reason evolution requires an explanation of the origins of life is because the evolutionist has to prove that the first simple single cell was able to write within its genetic structure a very complex set of instructions with all of the cellular codes for every living thing would evolve from it. And that is, as you well know, is impossible.

I assume not, since you did not get any of these ridiculous notions from a science website, since nothing you claim about evolution even exists in the scientific literature.

You said you copy stuff from 'evolutionist' websites, that was a lie. Either you make it up, or you get it from creationist websites.

Besides all that, I wasn't talking to you so take your vitrol elsewhere.

hehe, I'll address whoever I like, and it's not vitriol, I'm just calling you out on your blatant misrepresentations of science.

[WildTurkey]

Hard to do since I've made no ridiculous assertions, only replying to them.

I will refer you back to the two rediculous statements:

But for evolutionists, they have to deal with the lack of transitional forms in the fossil record, the lack of evidence for 'ape-men,'. The failure to answer the question regarding if we evolved from apes, then why are the apes still here? Typical statement made by those that oppose evolution but are ignorant of evolutionary theory.

So by dispensing with the "where did life begin?" question, evolutionists are free to invent any sort evolutionary tree. Typical derogatory statement made by anti-evolutionist that has no basis but is just meant to inflame and distort the science and the people that practice science.

[Dimensio]

Never said I was an expert, but I do wish you would tell me how precisly that mutation thing works because when ever I've heard or seen a mutation, it has died shortly after birth

You obviously haven't heard much about mutations. Many of them are entirely neutral. A few provide a slight reproductive advantage to the organism that has it, and those are the mutations that drive evolution.

For instance, the transitionals between ape ancestors and man

You mean the various specimens dug up throughout the last hundred years?

whale and hippo...

Such as the findings that sparked this very article?

Which just happens to contain the entire genetic code needed to populate the earth...plants, people, animals... uh huh

Okay, I've already explained to you that the first life forms did not hav ethe "entire genetic code needed to poulate the earth...", and you're repeating the claim. Are you a liar, or are you just ignoring any contrary evidence because you don't know how to adjust your argument when you're wrong on an issue?

[garybob]

It is false and you are either ignorant or disruptive to post it.

It's not, so get used to it. If by disagreeing with you is considered disruption, so be it. You'll get banned for name calling long before I get banned for disruption.

[SubSailor]

Maybe you want to reword. Do you meant to say that a persons religion support ONLY YE? In that case, their religion may or may be nonsense, but that aspect of it is nonsense. And, if they insist on bringing false science into the debate or using their religion as "fact" in the debate, that is a more than nonsense.

Are you serious?

When you used the phrase earlier about

"What were the pillars made of that the fellows that cooked up the Bible thought the earth was supported by ..."

That phrase and other such little jabs at the Bible during this thread led me to believe that you were one of those who might summarily dismiss the Bible as a source of anything worth learning. I apologize if I was wrong, but that was my perception.

[Tribune7]

Parts such as pump and motor do not actually compose a flagellum. It is a metaphor, not a literal meaning in this case.

Not a literal meaning? What would you call the device that takes the flow of acid from outside the bacterium to the inside or an agent that imparts motion?

As a creationist, I am sure you have trouble separating the two . . .

As someone who takes the Bible seriously, I've tried to be gentle in pointing out the silliness of your posts. Perhaps I've failed. So, being as how you are a minister, I will leave with this bit of scripture.

[garybob]

Either you make it up, or you get it from creationist websites.

Of course I made it up, VI. And the responses that you and Wild Turkey gave are priceless and got a lot of laughs here.

So sue me.

[WildTurkey]

My problem is not with the Bible, but the fanatics that insist that they only know how to interpret it.

[Alacarte]

Of course I made it up, VI. And the responses that you and Wild Turkey gave are priceless and got a lot of laughs here.

So... you're an atheist baiting us with ridiculous assertions that only a creationist with a grammar school science background could think of? haha, big joke.

[WildTurkey]

Of course I made it up, VI. And the responses that you and Wild Turkey gave are priceless and got a lot of laughs here.

I've been told that there are disrupters here that post nonsense just to try to get the science folks banned. You have "warned me" that I would get banned. 2+2=4.

[WildTurkey]

So... you're an atheist baiting us with ridiculous assertions that only a creationist with a grammar school science background could think of? haha, big joke.

He warned me a few posts ago that I would get banned. Maybe that is his game.

[Alacarte]

He warned me a few posts ago that I would get banned. Maybe that is his game.

BT, if you were gonna get banned, it would've happened long ago. ;)

[Alacarte]

Wow, the B is not even close to the W on the keyboard, but I still called you BT, sorry. I type too fast, but that's weird...

[WildTurkey]

It's too late. I was still trying to figure out what BT was an acronym for ...