Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry
And you're convinced that applies to me yet you fail to see that I'm convinced it applies to you.
I am just trading Bible verses with you. Since you don't have any science to debate, I thought I would go down to your level trading insults with the Bible.
What a good use you creationists have for the Bible. ;-)
No, Behe thinks mousetraps were designed.
Well gene sequencing is a means science uses to determine descent. . .You can't determine what occurred first in gene according to the position of it in a gene.
That's not how gene sequencing is used in determining descent. (not saying it's definitive, of course, and nobody is claiming so as per the flagellum merely indicative) Are you saying it's not used for such a purpose??? Careful in how you answer.
Because "I don't know" has the same level of explanation as "God did it".
It most certainly does not. Saying "God did it" is a stopping point. Saying "I don't know" is a starting point. If are unwilling to honestly say "I don't know" you will never find the answer.
Saying "I don't know" to problems that are well explained through a theory is what most people in this thread upset.
Most people? I'd say the sides are pretty even and what has my side upset is the unwillingness to say "I don't know" when that is the honest answer.
Take this quiz: What is the defninitive common ancestor between man and chimp? Now why are you sure there is one?
And I say the same thing about you there too :-)
You are arguing from faith.
The fact of Jesus Christ Resurrection is necessary to be a Christian. Faith comes in where the person chooses to believe in it or not.
Without Christ risen, Christianity is the same as Muslim or any other false religion.
No, you don't know enough science to know whether it is factual or not. You have already refused to read the facts several times, but continue to try to debate based on, well, nothing but your uninformed opinion.
You would be a much more effective Christian if some reality penetrated your world view.
I have Faith that Christ's rising is a fact, I wasn't there though.
But it is actually taught that that E=MC2applies only to nuclear reactions and not to chemical reactions.
You don't believe the Bible? You only have faith that Christ rose without believing what the Bible says is a fact?
Hmmmmmm...
It seems you chose to believe as fact that Noah put millions of animals on an Ark and mucked out all their stalls with 8 people, but you only have "faith" that Christ rose without accepting the literal Bible as fact.
I think you need to go back and rethink your whole set of principles for living.
In all practicality E=mc2 does only apply to nuclear reactions.
I would teach kids about the energy transformation in beginning chemistry, so they begin to understand the big picture.
You can worry about if you want, I don't know why you would.
What is a "SHUBI"? Is that an acronym? Looks like one, like SCUBA, or PETA.
shubi, I don't have time to go through the next 1000 posts from this line, but it is really annoying and it is clear to all on this thread that Jayson has a strong point and all you can do is boast about your credentials.
If you really were a biologist, you would understand that Jayson's logic is 100% accurate regarding "what" evolution is defined as. Whether you agree with the theory or not is a different argument which apparnetly you are incapable of matching wits with (biologist or not).
From my perspective I don't have a problem with evolution as a theory or when enough facts exists as a fact. The real problem is that so many people have agendas its all propaganda. Fundamentalist Christians who think the earth is still flat versus evolutionists who think they are actually scientists. Its actually pretty funny to watch if your paying attention to the facts, not the propaganda.
Cheers!
"Take this quiz: What is the defninitive common ancestor between man and chimp? Now why are you sure there is one?"
There are many reasons to know there was a common ancestor. One indicator is the vitamin C gene deficiency.
Another is the greater similarity of our DNA to chimp DNA than any other animal.
We don't have to find the common ancestor, which might have only existed for a very short period of time probably in Africa, before it split into several different populations that would speciate according to the environment of the ecological niche they inhabited.
Thanks for the complete Bravo Sierra. Try to look for a clue. Jaysun has no science at all on his side, no facts-nothing but misinterpretation of the Bible.
That you think nonsense has merit is your problem.
I should add, that if you had read Jaysun's posts, you would see he does not know what the definition of evolution is. Apparently, you may not know either.
Like a typical propaganda-based evolutionist (without a mind for science), you refused to take on an important, and still unanswered question. Are you willing to approach this topic or are you still going to hide behind your "credentials"?
Like a typical propaganda-based evolutionist (without a mind for science), you refused to take on an important, and still unanswered question. Are you willing to approach this topic or are you still going to hide behind your "credentials"?
"You can worry about if you want, I don't know why you would. "
If you want to represent yourself as a Christian, quote reams of Bible verses and attempt to evangelize; the least you could do is have some understanding of the basis of Christianity.
As to my screen name, it is a nickname some friends gave me long ago. I like it because it reminds me of the Sinatra song.
It could be the acronym for shut Hank up before idiocy.;-)
There are hundreds of observed speciations.
Go learn some biology.
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