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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: SubSailor

"However, can you not admire their determination to enter the lion's den, so to speak?"

No. Do you admire the person that goes into a marked minefield and gets blown up?


2,101 posted on 02/12/2005 10:00:36 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: SubSailor

sad but true.


2,102 posted on 02/12/2005 10:00:41 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: SubSailor

"we will never find common ground and will remain at odds with each other."

I don't want to find common ground with people that are detached from reality.


2,103 posted on 02/12/2005 10:01:52 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
No. Do you admire the person that goes into a marked minefield and gets blown up?

If it was in an effort to save someone else, then yes.

2,104 posted on 02/12/2005 10:03:13 AM PST by SubSailor
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To: SubSailor

s-No. Do you admire the person that goes into a marked minefield and gets blown up?

sub If it was in an effort to save someone else, then yes.

It is a false effort to save someone on the creationist's part. They are saving them with a false Gospel.

It is like someone going into the minefield to rescue someone, handing them a grenade with the pin out and
waiting to blow up together.


2,105 posted on 02/12/2005 10:06:10 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
s-No. Do you admire the person that goes into a marked minefield and gets blown up?

sub If it was in an effort to save someone else, then yes.

It is a false effort to save someone on the creationist's part. They are saving them with a false Gospel.

It is like someone going into the minefield to rescue someone, handing them a grenade with the pin out and waiting to blow up together.?

I stand by my original statement. If I perceived that you were in danger, regardless of the correctness of my perception, then I think I should at least attempt to save you.

2,106 posted on 02/12/2005 10:35:19 AM PST by SubSailor
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To: King Prout
Yeah, really. It's today.
2,107 posted on 02/12/2005 10:35:44 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: shubi
I don't want to find common ground with people that are detached from reality.

"I am right and you are wrong, I pity you, and remember I am a minister."

Obviously, you are very pertinacious. Apparently, from the past several discourses we have had, and taking into account the above statements, I have little chance of making any headway in affecting your resoluteness or your opinions.

I have enjoyed the opportunity to discuss these matters with you. I wish that we could agree more, but that does not seem likely at this time. Perhaps we shall meet again in some other thread, or in some other form. Good luck to you and I bid you peace.

2,108 posted on 02/12/2005 11:07:53 AM PST by SubSailor
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To: Tribune7

placemarker


2,109 posted on 02/12/2005 11:18:15 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Tribune7
Does ID allow us to pose scientifically useful questions? As it is now, sure. It's a new concept, however, and no layers of dogma have become attached to it.

Come on. We all know what ID is. It is the NEW movement by radical fundamentalists to descredit evolutionary theory. They throw up a bunch of websites then they come here and quote those websites.

Just like Soros tried with drug legalization. Fill the webhits with false propaganda.

Now when a "student" goes to look up the second law of thermodynamics, he gets more hits on false science propaganda by the ID crowd than credible informative sites.

2,110 posted on 02/12/2005 12:25:57 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Tribune7
Can ID be falsified? Well, it's math based so yes.

No. Since ID is based on the supernatural all powerful God who can do anything.

2,111 posted on 02/12/2005 12:27:23 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: SubSailor
Do you really think that there is such a vast conspiracy among all the Christian Churches in this country who believe that the Bible is inerrant and literal? No, it is not so. The simple fact is, these people truly believe this in their hearts to be true. There are certainly exceptions to any generalizations regarding human behavior, but generally, these are well-meaning people. They are arguing for what they believe to be true, they are not attempting to deceive.

Yes they do argue to deceive. That is their only hope of hurting evolutionary theory.

2,112 posted on 02/12/2005 12:31:12 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: shubi
What makes you think Earth will be unihabitable?

The sun is a main sequence star. From the billions of examples of these stars we can see that the sun will get hotter and bigger as it ages. In 1/2 billion years it will be too hot here on earth. Eventually the sun will become so large that it will fill the sky and it will eat both Mercury and Venus, and maybe earth, too.

This should not be a revelation. The idea that the sun will burn out in 5 billion years is common enough, but that earth will be too hot long before then is probably not as commonly known.

2,113 posted on 02/12/2005 2:49:31 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: RightWhale
Eventually the sun will become so large that it will fill the sky and it will eat both Mercury and Venus, and maybe earth, too.


2,114 posted on 02/12/2005 3:11:29 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: SubSailor

That sentence was a joke I put in so people would do exactly what you just did. LOL


2,115 posted on 02/12/2005 3:21:23 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: b_sharp
This is why a figure skater spins faster by pulling in her arms.

When a figure skater pulls a "hand" in, the hand does not speed up. It maintains its momentum/speed but since it is in a closer orbit, its Tau decreases. Your anology makes it easy to remember but is not technically correct.

For example, if an object is in a circular orbit at 1000 miles it will have a Velocity of V1000 and if you suddenly "push" it to a lower orbit it will still have a V1000 which is now too low to counteract centripetal acceleration causing it to fall closer to earth resulting in an elliptical orbit. To regain the circular orbit, you have to provide another boost at the correct time.

2,116 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:41 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
It is the NEW movement by radical fundamentalists to descredit evolutionary theory.

No, the IDers are mainstream people.

Now when a "student" goes to look up the second law of thermodynamics,

ID doesn't use the Second Law of Thermodynamics as an objection to evolution.

Actually, I'm not even sure you can say ID objects to evolution. My view is that what it objects to is an undirected explanation of biodiversity.

Here is a very recent article by Dembski which specifically addresses the issue.

2,117 posted on 02/12/2005 5:41:01 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Actually, I'm not even sure you can say ID objects to evolution. My view is that what it objects to is an undirected explanation of biodiversity.

From you link YEC's should consider ID their friend and join them in the destruction of Darwinism. No go back to DU.

2,118 posted on 02/12/2005 6:20:31 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
From you link YEC's should consider ID their friend and join them in the destruction of Darwinism. No go back to DU.

Those Darwinists? I don't think so.

2,119 posted on 02/12/2005 6:23:40 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: WildTurkey

It ate Mercury in that simulation, but spared Venus, sort of.


2,120 posted on 02/12/2005 6:26:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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