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CA: Governor calls GOP to 'great battle' ('ToTal ReFoRm')
Sac Bee ^ | 2/11/05 | Gary Delsohn

Posted on 02/12/2005 10:56:24 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Characterizing his agenda this year as a "great battle" against "evil," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger used a 28-minute speech at the state Republican convention Friday night to rally fellow party members around his plans to fight Democratic interests at the ballot box.

Vowing to pass four broad government-overhaul measures at a special election later this year, Schwarzenegger said public employee labor unions and other foes are amassing $200 million to fight him.

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"That's why they fixed a little here, a little there. But now we're going to the source. We're going right there where all the evil is, and we're going to fix this problem once and for all."

Belittling his Democratic adversaries in the Legislature for not responding to his proposals because they must be on "sleeping pills ... or medication," Schwarzenegger suggested they've all but blown their chance to join him.

"They can go ahead and do whatever they want," he bellowed in a line that drew loud applause from the 1,000 Republicans at the Hyatt Hotel in downtown Sacramento. "The train has left the station.

"The train has left the station and there (are) three things they can do. One is they can join and then jump on the train. Number two, they can go and stand behind and just wave and be left behind. Or number three, they get in front of the train - and you know what happens then."

When the raucous applause and laughter died down, Schwarzenegger did what he always seems to do while delivering a fiery speech deriding the Democrats: He said how much he wants to work with them.

"It is my preference to go and work with the legislators," he said. "This is my number one preference. Work together like with some of the issues we did last year."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: battle; calls; caunions; gop; governor; redistricting; schwarzenegger; tenure; unionpower
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To: Carry_Okie

You are distorting and misrepresenting his record.


61 posted on 02/12/2005 12:23:00 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Carry_Okie
Look, I was willing to accept a lot less than I wanted in Arnold, but so far, he hasn't lived up to what was promised at all.

LOL you don't expect us to take this statement seriously? What issues are you willing to compromise on or give Arnold credit for?

62 posted on 02/12/2005 12:23:08 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: FairOpinion
You are distorting and misrepresenting his record.

You have been given ample opportunity to prove that assertion and have failed at every turn.

63 posted on 02/12/2005 12:25:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

well ya know what.....for now I am......considering the crappy state of affairs this state was put in by Davis and his cronies I'll still wait to see how it goes.....this stuff can not get fixed overnight, especially in a state as complex as Calif.......this is not Vermont after all...plus, I'm a conservative Repub for the most part but unlike some here who call anyone a RINO and has no tolerance for anything different, I want solutions just like you and an willing to give someone like Arnold a chance....


64 posted on 02/12/2005 12:25:36 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Carry_Okie

I could prove every one of your assertions false and you would still keep posting it.

At various times I did point out the various fallacies, I just didn't put them all in a list, for the reasons above.

For one, he never called Republicans "right wing crazies".


65 posted on 02/12/2005 12:29:04 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: ClintonBeGone
What issues are you willing to compromise on or give Arnold credit for?

I gave him credit at the end of that list. I didn't expect you to read it and have not been disappointed.

As for compromise, I would have accepted smaller spending cuts than McClintock proposed. So far, there have been no substantive cuts at all, in fact, the rate of growth in spending under Arnold has accelerated from what it was under Davis. Davis at least had the excuse of ballot mandated spending increases for class-size-reduction (that didn't work). Arnold has no such excuse.

66 posted on 02/12/2005 12:29:46 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: FairOpinion
I could prove every one of your assertions false and you would still keep posting it.

I have bookmarked this post. Go for it.

67 posted on 02/12/2005 12:30:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: FairOpinion; NorCalRepub; Carry_Okie
I could prove every one of your assertions false and you would still keep posting it.

Carry, I think FairOpinion is right on this. While we all have our biases, I think he's right on that no matter what he says, you'll never stop making those assertions, right or wrong.

68 posted on 02/12/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: NormsRevenge
If the Dims were behind Arnold I would be suspect of him. Being that they are going to fight him tooth and nail, I see that as a good sign for conservatism. He has it right, go to the people and override those idiots. If they make too much of a fuss against the people of California, they will be having coffee with Daschle by the next election.
69 posted on 02/12/2005 12:31:13 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: NormsRevenge

Schwartzie should dump the Kennedy-era wife and pinch the bottom of somebody like Ann Coulter who will make his attention span a trifle longer:)


70 posted on 02/12/2005 12:43:42 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS
Schwartzie should dump the Kennedy-era wife and pinch the bottom of somebody like Ann Coulter who will make his attention span a trifle longer:)

LOL I'm sure Ann would do good for his attention span, but I don't know about his life span. :)

71 posted on 02/12/2005 12:45:26 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Ann Coulter as First Lady of CA would be good. She might smoke Arnies' cigars, too. At Berserkly.


72 posted on 02/12/2005 12:52:53 PM PST by BobS
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To: NormsRevenge

Schwarzenegger said public employee labor unions and other foes are amassing $200 million to fight him.

Go Arnie. Make the unions a non-issue. Relegate them to the recycle bin.


73 posted on 02/12/2005 12:55:07 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Carry_Okie

In comparison to his predecessor. Sometimes relative comparisons are necessary. He's attempting to restrict Leftist spending, that's a conservative start in a state like CA.


74 posted on 02/12/2005 12:57:26 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: FairOpinion

Can you inagine the size of the voter pamphlet.

How the hell is anyone gonna make an intelligent decision over something so important as the types of reforms being proposed?

The media and their spin will win the day. Also how can these things be debated in any reasonable fashion?

I want California to be saved, not enslaved to a new brand of socialism. How about you?

just my thoughts.


75 posted on 02/12/2005 1:08:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How can you say that people voting = socialism?

In socialism nobody asks the people.

There will be a few major items on the ballot. Just the way people understood the need to recall Davis, they will understand the need to pass the reforms proposed by Arnold, one of which will be the redistricting, which may break the strangelhold the Dems have on CA.

One would think conservatives would laud this.


76 posted on 02/12/2005 1:12:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Drop the titles crap and get real.

We shall see what comes forth in the end and then count our chickens. How's that sound?

Like it matters what sane folks think in california anyway.

A majority of californians are too busy living to worry about how they are being governed. and most of them haven;t a clue about how tenuous a position this state is in.

Reagan was a great communicator, aRnold has his work cut out for him,

btw, since when is a moderate a conservative all of a sudden.

Heck, even PeRATa wants to revisit Prop 98, so trying to question affiliation is a bit silly, imo.


77 posted on 02/12/2005 1:17:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: FairOpinion
Can you inagine the size of the voter pamphlet.

How the hell is anyone gonna make an intelligent decision over something so important as the types of reforms being proposed?

I think this question says more about the maker than I've ever seen him say.

78 posted on 02/12/2005 1:20:27 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: taxesareforever
Schwarzenegger said public employee labor unions and other foes are amassing $200 million to fight him.

The dems and unions are doing everything they can to diminish the fund gathering efforts that would support reform thru the initiative process.

should tell ya who's for maintaining status quo.

Folks need to carefully think about the issues at hands, however tho, the proposals being made to 'fix' them and vote accordingly.

The hype will be intolerable and will turn many off, unfortunately.

Sad that some here trying to air both sides of the issues now are seen as part of the problem.

79 posted on 02/12/2005 1:25:34 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Sounds like the Arnold haters are getting really upset, because Arnold really is fulfilling his promises, one by one, showing that it was very much the right thing to do, for California and for the Republican party to elect Arnold.

Arnold will definitely leave California in much better shape,than he found it, and with reforms in place, so that it can't slide back.


80 posted on 02/12/2005 1:28:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
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