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To: Non-Sequitur

"The only 'tyranny' seems to be the 'tyranny' of the majority. I don't think that the Founding Father's had that in mind as justification for rebellion."

Fear of tyranny of the majority is EXACTLY the reason for a Constitution. The Constitution exists EXPRESSLY for that purpose, and I think that is PRECISELY what they would see as a reason for fight for liberty.

Our form of government was designed as a Constitutional Republic. NOT a democracy, or even a republic. One of my favorite jokes is one which illustrates the difference:

A democracy is 3 sheep and 5 wolves voting on dinner.
A republic is sheep, who vote for wolves, who then get to vote on dinner.
A constitutional republic is sheep voting for wolves, but NO ONE gets to vote on dinner, and the sheep carry GUNS!!!

The Constitution is a document whereby the sovereign States delegate, or enumerate, a few (only about 2 dozen) very specific, very limited powers to the federal entity. The powers delegated to the federal entity in NO WAY make the federal government SUPERIOR to the states. This is the definitition of a FEDERAL government. The founding fathers more often than not called it a federal system, or a confederation, or simply, the Union--- much like the European Union of today. As you know, those European states rule their citizens completely according (hopefully) to the wishes of their citizenry, NOT according to the wishes of Europeans as a whole. The EU has a few, limited powers. This was EXACTLY what our Constitution does.

The 9th and 10th Amendments are necessary to make this system absolutely clear. The federal government can do NOTHING if those powers are not SPECIFICALLY GRANTED IT by the sovereign States. During Madison's presidency, he would not sign a bill to give a paltry (I think it was) $5,000 in disaster relief to (I think) Florida after a hurricane hit the state, because he said that this was not a power given the federal government by the Constitution.

Your understanding of the powers of the federal government are INVERTED from that of the framers, thanks to Lincolnite brainwashing. NOTE: power flows FROM THE (people of) the STATES to the FEDERAL ENTITY, NOT from the federal government to the people of the states. All those US flags flying above State flags we see are pure brainwashing, and clearly NOT what the founding fathers believed AT ALL.

It is NOT the federal government's job to rule us. That is the job of the States. The federal government can deliver the mail, maintain a navy (but not even a standing army), they can make treaties with foreign countries,and about 20 other, very specific items, ONLY! In fact, every time I hear that the Supreme Court has overturned some State law, it is a clear indication that the Supreme Court justices have either never read the Constitution, or are guilty of treason against the people.

Now, some people call this a "narrow interpretation" of the Constitution. However, the last time I checked, the Constitution was written in English, and I speak English, so I see no need for "interpretation" WHATSOEVER!! This is PRECISELY what the founding fathers wrote, it is PRECISELY what they said, and other than a few very frustrated Whigs like Haliton (and his later progenies like Lincoln), who wanted to establish a national bank (finally accomplished by Lincoln) and make the president a lifelong job (basically, a king).


387 posted on 03/03/2005 8:54:57 AM PST by Jsalley82
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To: Jsalley82
Now, some people call this a "narrow interpretation" of the Constitution.

'Narrow intepretation' might be a polite way of describing it. But the only way I can see how you might arrive at that interpretation is by ignoring vast amounts of the Constitution you claim to have an uncanny understanding of. You claim that the central government is in no way superior to the states. Yet it is the Congress that determines if a state will be admitted in the first place. The central government tells the states what form of government they will have. The central government that tells the states who they may deal with and how they may or may not conduct their affairs outside their own borders and in their dealings with the other states. You cringe and cry 'treason' at the idea of the U.S. Supreme Court overturning a state law and ignore the fact that same Constitution that defines 'treason' differently from you also makes it clear that it is the U.S. Constitution and the laws and treaties made under it that is the supreme law of the land, overriding state and local constitutions and laws when lose laws conflict with it. And do you honestly expect us to believe that the U.S. Army is unconstitutional?

The Constitution does not limit the central government to explicit powers only, the concept of implied powers has been accepted since the first Supreme Court. The idea of the states being sovereign is true to a point, they are sovereign within their own borders but powerless when their actions impact the interest of the other states or outside the borders of the United States. That is the concept that the founders had. A nation that speaks with one voice, not 50. And a nation that looks out for the interests of all the states, not one. We are one nation, not a loose conglomeration of 50.

388 posted on 03/03/2005 9:44:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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