Now, how hard is it to spot this walking billboard of antisocial behavior and have some civic minded magician make him and his ilk disappear?
Posted on 02/20/2005 10:53:56 AM PST by Happy2BMe
No problem.
some more underbelly for ya
Illinois better watch out too
Thanks- I need to research them.
#123 - MS13 - FYI
Now, how hard is it to spot this walking billboard of antisocial behavior and have some civic minded magician make him and his ilk disappear?
I'm in complete agreement. I believe the philosophy of "self help" we're trying to instill to the population of Iraq is applicable to us as well. Why should we wait on the government as the Iraqis wait on the coalition to purge their country of internal terrorists when we are completely capable of "cleaning house" ourselves. The problem is that no one want to get involved because it's easier to just turn our collective heads and pretend that by ignoring the matter will make it go away or in the worst case scenario that "the law" will take care of the matter.
If the law was capable of taking care of the matter then it wouldn't exist, would it? The law and the law enforcement agencies can not do anything unless something happens. So, in essence, it is in their interest to allow things to happen so that they can establish their relevance, after the fact.
Yup.
BTTT
Lots of info on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1354262/posts
GANG LAND
Send 'em to York, PA; we can use the target practice.
A NATIONAL DRIVE FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM in D.C.
April 23- 28, 2005
http://www.rogerhedgecock.com/travel_current.html
A NATIONAL DRIVE FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM-
Hold Their Feet to the Fire XI with Roger Hedgecock - April 23- 28, 2005
To which they will respond by adding more gun control laws...
The real rubber will hit the road not in Washington, D.C. but in Tombstone, Arizona on April 1st.
As a resident of California, I can assure you that many people who are not criminals, not cops, and not rich, own firearms. No, the California constitution does not contain a right to keep and bear arms, but there are plenty of firearms owned legally by average other than rich, cop, or criminal types.
To: Marine Inspector; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; HAL9000; All
NEWS BRIEF:
http://radio.ksl.com/index.php?sid=154159&nid=19
"LA Gang Growing In Utah
Local law enforcement are keeping a close eye on a fast growing gang that started in Los Angeles, and now has members here in Utah."
(Mar 4, 2005) --
SALT LAKE CITY-(KSL News) --
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Los Angeles Police Detective Tony Moreno is in Utah to teach law enforcement about the MS13 gang. He says the gang likes quiet communities where they can take over."
Posted on 03/05/2005 10:22:41 PM PST by Cindy
He should be head of the FBI.
It is all politics of course, I wonder if it is a matter of balance of criminal activity or evidence to support conviction or expulsion. If organized criminal activity does not warrent a national security risk then what qualification is required for DHS to assess as threat. MS13 has been targeted however it is almost double talk that other gangs are allowed to operate while engaging in "criminal" activity. Of course the divisions between domestic, criminal, and martial actions against a political state are clear and orginization should be known, however it is political states that accept criminals as required that set up systems for lax allowances of "illegal" cultures, simply the cultures themselves engage in "illegal" activities as per required, it is simply a matter of what is seen as acceptable preying. If resistance is given to police officers where oposition is armed you can expect the chance of weapons discharge, it becomes a threat when the underdog "criminal" is on even ground. If police and then paramiliatary national security forces are unable to deal with the situation then it becomes martial considering organiziation for ongoing resistance is likely ongoing if open resistance is active. The martial aspect is grave national security risks emergency situations. It seems redundant to have the divisions DHS is a partial example with the joining of all paramilitary "civil forces", these are not "civil" forces they are equivlent to combat forces trained in investigative and deterent of "non modern combat forces" with upwards of 150 000 personel. The only thing perhaps seperating Military and paramilitary activities is what is seen as containment rather then erradication, it is also seen as "inhumane" to commit exterminate of captive soilders in military law, however that does not mean it has not happened.
It is gross neglagence to allow criminal activity to be ongoing, however the clear line between intervention and assualt is a basis of recognition.
In my opinion the division of martial forces creates a class of acceptable activities against the state. It becomes purely political where damage to the state is benifical to the politics, where politics builds the state. It is all just corrupted personal bias and it is unfortunate that the forces that play in militant politics exist, but heck since when has it been a free world? It is a police state run by the political ambitions of he who holds the most might. Of course you can abandon this notion and acheive "freedom" but in the world it leaves you.
No drugs? That's odd, maybe they will make some connections in jail. It is unfortunate when the thugs arn't on payroll, serving society? Who's society? Twisted bastards.
What I don't get about gangs is how they mark themselves for identification, it just seems lacking of intellegence.
They do what they do I geuss, but you can't say theyre terrorists they wear their uniforms ALL the time.
I understand it is just what people beleive is righ, no offence it just seems negligent, what is an offense, POLTITICS? Such a thin line between cherry picking and winning, where my cows at? WHSPH
Now to say something that ins't obvious, all this intellegence gathering if tough work we can't just arrest everyone we don't like... or can we.. time give it time.
BIG BROTHER YOU HAVE FAILED me *shivers*
MUST START gang that tatoes little cutesy panda bear on a beach ball.. that'll make em all looks stopid, panda bear gang strikes again. anyway /endrant
How ignorant can you be??? You people act as if MS-13 is only a problem here. MS-13 is a bigger problem in Central and South America then it is here. I have faced accusations from people here saying that I am a MS-13 member just because I'm from El Salvador. Thats just ridiculous. You people have 2 understand that these people have had a rough past with the Civil War killing more then 20% of our population (70,000 people). Now they want to make immigration laws STRICTER then they already are for people coming from Latin America?? Bush needs to take his head out of his ass and think for once in his life. Same problems Americans face..Latinos, especially Salvadorans, face, too.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.