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Terri Schiavo - Won't Someone Help?
The National Ledger ^ | Feb 22, 2005 | L.A. Morris

Posted on 02/22/2005 9:41:17 AM PST by AliVeritas

Sixth Circuit Court Judge George Greer ruled late Monday afternoon that George Felos and Michael Schiavo cannot implement their stated plan to withdraw the gastric feeding tube of Terri Schindler-Schiavo until a hearing is held on Weds, Feb 23 to determine if the stay in effect from Greer's 2000 death order should remain in place while her parents, Mary and Robert Schindler Sr., continue with their legal options in trying to keep her alive.

The Schindlers had hoped to convince the court that starving Terri to death would violate her religious liberties. As a Catholic, the Schindlers contend Terri would not want to have her life ended.

If anyone ever deserved a second chance, it's Terri Schiavo, the central figure in a battle for the rights of the handicapped. She has no idea of the controversy swirling about her, and has been unaware of the fight for her life since she collapsed of a potassium deficiency in 1990. But regardless of the why and how, Terri's collapse starved her brain of oxygen, and she has never been mentally or physically revived past a semi-vegetative state.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; schiavo; terrischiavo
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Thank you very much for your post. By posting on this Terri thread, you are bumping it to the top, where many more people who will help us, will see it! :o)


201 posted on 02/22/2005 9:06:26 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Why not give her the new test so we'll KNOW she's aware, then?


202 posted on 02/22/2005 9:08:11 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

What is the legal status of "When is that bitch going to die?"


203 posted on 02/22/2005 9:10:14 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: Lovergirl

I'm not arguing. It seems the same people come back to spew, and it does bump up the Terri threads. They don't even realize that they're helping our cause. Through them, the truth is getting out there. They are actually shooting themselves in their own feet. :o)


204 posted on 02/22/2005 9:14:07 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: Heisenberg

Thank you very much for your post. By posting on this Terri thread, you are bumping it to the top, where many more people who will help us, will see it! :o)


205 posted on 02/22/2005 9:20:01 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh! ok, I won't complain anymore. :>)


206 posted on 02/22/2005 9:24:18 PM PST by Lovergirl (Proud member of the Pajama Brigade. One of the FRINGE people.)
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To: HMFIC

Your profound ignorance of Catholic teaching, and your gross deficiencies in logic, are breathtaking.

Unless, of course, you say these outrageous things deliberately.
In that case, I will pray for you, and ask you to take your trolling elsewhere.


207 posted on 02/22/2005 9:24:49 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
If Terri wanted to die she would be dead from all the infections and neglect she has had to endure.
She wants to live long enough to get some of that great health care that the US is so well known for and for some reason has been denied her.

Also I wish I could get a dollar for everytime CNN radio news reports her as being on a respirator. I guess it called "the first liar in wins".
208 posted on 02/22/2005 9:34:57 PM PST by tertiary01 (Believe your eyes and heart before some lab tests.)
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To: Lovergirl

:o)


209 posted on 02/22/2005 9:35:40 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: tertiary01

Terri is a remarkable person, who has a strong will to live. From the descriptions of her, especially by the priests, I get the impression that the operations of her soul are quite profound.


210 posted on 02/22/2005 9:40:42 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Well CNN radio got it right this time and said she had a feeding tube instead of being on a respirator.


211 posted on 02/22/2005 10:03:33 PM PST by tertiary01 (Believe your eyes and heart before some lab tests.)
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To: Heisenberg; All

Floridians to call their representatives in support of HB 701, Withdrawing Nutrition and Hydration.


QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON HB 701,
THE FLORIDA STARVATION AND DEHYDRATION OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES PREVENTION ACT

QUESTIONS:

1. What can be done now that the Florida Supreme Court has struck down “Terri’s Law” under which Governor Jeb Bush directed that she be given food and fluids?

2. What can be done that the Florida courts won’t strike down?

3. Since the courts in the Schiavo case maintained there was “clear and convincing evidence” that Teresa Schindler-Schiavo would have rejected nutrition and hydration, how would the proposed bill save her life?

4. Does the bill require nutrition and hydration in every instance in which it has not been specifically rejected by the patient?

5. Some legislators say that since the Florida Supreme Court said denying Terri her food and fluids was a “final judgment”, and the legislature can’t overturn a final judgment, nothing can be done.

FRTL also has a petition for download on prevention of starvation and dehydration.

http://www.frtl.org/petition/Starvation&Dehydration.pdf

http://www.frtl.org/


213 posted on 02/22/2005 10:50:36 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: ArmyTeach
The guy with whom I was arguing was using the example of starving oneself to death as justifiable suicide in the eyes of the Catholic Church, and I attempted to show that suicide is the killing of oneself and therefore not applicable in Terri's case.

We weren't discussing legality. The poster brought the Catholic Church's teaching into play and I engaged him on that basis.

I certainly don't think state-sanctioned murder is okay, if that's what you're wondering about.

214 posted on 02/22/2005 10:51:19 PM PST by Chunga
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan; ClancyJ

I am in full agreement.


215 posted on 02/22/2005 10:51:22 PM PST by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: All; FreepinforTerri

I'm seeing videos of Terri on tv, & while they show that she is not brain dead, there are far better videos. I'm going to e-mail some media outlets, and give them a link to a better video of Terri.

I hope some of you will join me in this effort and pick out your favorite video of Terri, and send a few media outlets the link.

My favorite video of Terri is the one where she laughs when her dad reminds her of when she used to tease her mother, and roll her eye (Terri had "lazy eye").

If anyone wants to see this video, provided by bjs1779, which only takes a minute, visit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1345652/posts?page=28

Then go to Post #28 & click the link.

Keep in mind when Terri makes sounds, she is attempting to talk, but needs therapy in order to talk. Even without therapy, Terri can say a few words. Sadly, Michael won't allow her to have therapy.

LET ME TELL YOU THIS: There was a poster on another board, who actually started an anti-Terry thread, and after seeing this video admitted that it was compelling and that he never saw this video before.


216 posted on 02/22/2005 11:57:25 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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Goodnight prayer for Terri!


217 posted on 02/23/2005 12:01:39 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: HMFIC

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Four, if this was a welfare patient, sucking down tax dollars, would ANY of YOU feel different? Damn straight you would.
........

So, a welfare patient should be treated differently than other humans? Then why have welfare? If we are willing to kill so that they do not consume our tax funds, why don't we just discontinue the welfare. At least that is not murder. Oh, but I guess we could not get the fools to vote for us liberals that way. We therefore get their vote and then set up laws so that we can withhold life if we determine they are a waste of OUR money.

Amazing how so many have so little regard for the sanctity of life. I hope you always stay rich so that you will be treated on the plane that would fit your taxpayer situation.


218 posted on 02/23/2005 12:41:53 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: Lazamataz

....Geez. Let the poor girl live already.

.....

O'Reilly would be proud - very pithy.


219 posted on 02/23/2005 12:42:59 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: AliVeritas

This ALERT is a special message from Terri Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler Sr.:

Dear Friend of Life,

By now you have probably heard about a young woman who is threatened with starvation in Florida.

That young woman is my daughter, Terri. In 1990, through circumstances which are shrouded in mystery (and may involve a criminal act by Terri's estranged husband), my daughter was left severely brain-damaged.

CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW!

But before I go any further, I must put an end to the lies and misinformation that are circulating around the country through the media concerning my daughter's condition.

Contrary to anything you may have heard, Terri is NOT brain dead; Terri is NOT in a coma; she is NOT in a "persistent vegetative state;" nor is she on ANY life-support system.

Terri laughs, Terri cries, she moves, and she makes child-like attempts at speech with her mother and me. Sometimes she will say "Mom" or "Dad" or "yeah" when we ask her a question. When I kiss her hello or goodbye, she looks at me and "puckers up" her lips.

This may not seem like much to you, but it means everything to Terri's mother and me. It tells us she is still here, she still knows us, and with therapy and time she can have some level of recovery.

I know that there are some hard hearted people who believe that due to my daughters condition, she is better off dead. Words cannot describe the pain and anger such sentiments cause us. This is our daughter, our little girl, and even in her disabled condition, she still has the right to life and the right to be loved and cared for by her family.

CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW!

Why, you may ask, is Terri in danger of death by starvation?

It is a long and outrageous story, but I'll give it to you as briefly as I can.

After the "incident" that left Terri in this condition, her husband Michael Schiavo sued various members of the medical community for money, saying that they did not treat or diagnose her properly at an early stage, and that he needed this money to provide for Terri's therapy and rehabilitation and care.

After lengthy court battles, he finally won upwards of $1.7 million under the guise of caring for our daughter, and then to our horror, he immediately began spending the money on himself and his Playboy lifestyle.

Terri's estranged husband Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman for years, and has two children by her. He is determined to see Terri dead. Why? We believe it's because he gets to keep whatever money is left... and he may have even darker motives than that.

To add insult to all of this injury toward my daughter, Michael Schiavo is still her "legal husband" and therefore is her "guardian." And since they are not legally divorced, he controls whatever health care she will and will not get. We are not even allowed to know if she is getting aspirin.

In 1993 my family initiated litigation against Michael Schiavo solely for the purpose of acquiring medical, physical and neurological assistance for our daughter Terri. The litigation escalated in 1998 when Michael Schiavo petitioned the court to stop Terri from receiving food and water, thereby starving her to death.

In filing this legal action, he retained the services of a high profile euthanasia attorney and the financial backing of powerful euthanasia organizations. He also used Terri's medical rehabilitation money to underwrite much of the legal expenses associated with his effort to starve our daughter to death.

We know that he has spent nearly $500,000 of Terri's money in attorney's fees for just one attorney trying to obtain a court order to have Terri starved to death. The very money that was supposed to be used for Terri's rehabilitation is being used to have her killed.

CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW!

We very quickly discovered it was impossible for us to compete with the abundance of financial and legal resources the pro-death organizations were providing Micheal Schiavo in their effort to kill Terri. They are pouring time and effort into her starvation because they want to use this case to further the agenda of legalized euthanasia.

My wife and I are not wealthy people. Throughout those years, we did not have any large organizations trying to help rescue our daughter. Consequently, we had to rely on the generosity of attorneys who were willing to offer their legal expertise at no cost or at reduced fees.

The bottom line is that we are in the final weeks or months of our struggle to rescue our daughter from an untimely death by starvation. Death by starvation is very slow, and extremely painful. As you must know, it is against the law to deliberately starve an animal to death. There are members of the Florida court who would not treat a dog the way they plan to treat my daughter.

At this point we must pull out all the stops in our fight to rescue our daughter.

As parents, we are desperate to save our daughter's life. As people who love life, we are determined to deprive the euthanasia advocates of successfully legalizing this form of homicide. We believe that their efforts to kill Terri are designed to set a precedent for the future eradication of defenseless disabled human beings. I was alive when Americans fought the Nazis; I do not want my daughter to meet the same fate of thousands of disabled people in Nazi Germany, and I do not want our country to go down that same dark path.

Friend, though we have never met, I'm asking you for your help. We desperately need your financial assistance to help our family continue the battle to keep our daughter from being starved to death. There are so many expenses in a case like this it is mind-boggling and overwhelming. Please click below to make a contribution now:

CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW!

Our adversaries believe that by our family's financial attrition and difficulties, they will attain their objective of killing our daughter. Presently, Terri's starvation may only be a few weeks away, unless we find the financial resources to prevent this atrocity from becoming a reality.

I implore you to please help us. We are writing to you, because we believe you have a heart for justice and mercy. I'm asking you to put yourself in my shoes, and then do whatever you can to help our family. Whether it is $10 or $1000, we are desperate for the resources to fight this battle for our daughter's life at this critical juncture.

Please do whatever you can, and forward this e-mail to any friends or family that you have who you think might be interested in saving Terri's life.

I thank you for your time, your concern, and I solicit your prayers for Terri and our entire family. These have been very trying times for us all.

Sincerely,

Bob Schindler Sr.

CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW!






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220 posted on 02/23/2005 12:49:48 AM PST by razorbak
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