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To: elhombrelibre; quidnunc
The Guardian-Fiske-Euro-twit position seems to be:

-Wanna remove tyrants by peaceful means? Don't do it.

-Wanna remove tyrants with war? No, do it by peaceful means of course.

Someone had it right on TV last night: Bush is interested in spreading democracy and freedom, the Eurons want commercial relations (easier with tyrannical regimes BTW, than with a free economy, look at their arms sales to China now).
15 posted on 02/26/2005 5:26:32 AM PST by beckaz
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To: beckaz
Remember in the 1980s the Left was always attacking the US for cozying up to authoritarian regimes as a bulwark against communism and for commercial interests? Now, the Left and, especially the EURO-Trash Left, are silent when their governments cozies up to authoritarian regimes as a bulwark against Bush, democracy, and for commercial interests.
16 posted on 02/26/2005 7:48:22 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: beckaz
No, they aren't interested in commercial relations. France has lost more from private US consumer boycotting than it will ever make trading with a poor basket case dependent on Russian handouts like Syria.

They are interested in power, and in the fact that we have it. This bothers them. They therefore insist that at least we never use it, as the next best thing to taking it away.

They try to bring this about by editorial blather, elections, and by giving as much cover as possible to determined enemies of the US. If that means terrorist nutjobs with nukes, fine. Their bottom line is the US should not have power and if it has any should not use it and if it uses it must use it only in the manner they direct. And they will say anything and do anything, up to and including helping nuts nuke Chicago, to get their way in the matter.

Commerce has nothing to do with it. Nor civilization. Nor morality. Nor sanity. It is an emotional matter about their existential inadequacy that only a sense of selfrighteousness and power can temporarily allay.

18 posted on 02/26/2005 9:39:40 AM PST by JasonC
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