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Famous Atheist Now Believes In God
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Posted on 03/03/2005 4:59:18 PM PST by Right Wing It

A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God more or less based on scientific evidence, and says so on a video released Thursday.

At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.

Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.

"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."

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Over the years, Flew proclaimed the lack of evidence for God while teaching at Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading universities in Britain, in visits to numerous U.S. and Canadian campuses and in books, articles, lectures and debates.

There was no one moment of change but a gradual conclusion over recent months for Flew, a spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.

Yet biologists' investigation of DNA "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved," Flew says in the new video, "Has Science Discovered God?"

The video draws from a New York discussion last May organized by author Roy Abraham Varghese's Institute for Metascientific Research in Garland, Texas. Participants were Flew; Varghese; Israeli physicist Gerald Schroeder, an Orthodox Jew; and Roman Catholic philosopher John Haldane of Scotland's University of St. Andrews.

The first hint of Flew's turn was a letter to the August-September issue of Britain's Philosophy Now magazine. "It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism," he wrote.

The letter commended arguments in Schroeder's "The Hidden Face of God" and "The Wonder of the World" by Varghese, an Eastern Rite Catholic layman.

This week, Flew finished writing the first formal account of his new outlook for the introduction to a new edition of his "God and Philosophy," scheduled for release next year by Prometheus Press.

Prometheus specializes in skeptical thought, but if his belief upsets people, well "that's too bad," Flew said. "My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato's Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it leads."

Last week, Richard Carrier, a writer and Columbia University graduate student, posted new material based on correspondence with Flew on the atheistic www.infidels.org Web page. Carrier assured atheists that Flew accepts only a "minimal God" and believes in no afterlife.

Flew's "name and stature are big. Whenever you hear people talk about atheists, Flew always comes up," Carrier said. Still, when it comes to Flew's reversal, "apart from curiosity, I don't think it's like a big deal."

Flew told The Associated Press his current ideas have some similarity with American "intelligent design" theorists, who see evidence for a guiding force in the construction of the universe. He accepts Darwinian evolution but doubts it can explain the ultimate origins of life.

A Methodist minister's son, Flew became an atheist at 15.

Early in his career, he argued that no conceivable events could constitute proof against God for believers, so skeptics were right to wonder whether the concept of God meant anything at all.

Another landmark was his 1984 "The Presumption of Atheism," playing off the presumption of innocence in criminal law. Flew said the debate over God must begin by presuming atheism, putting the burden of proof on those arguing that God exists


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1 posted on 03/03/2005 4:59:19 PM PST by Right Wing It
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To: Right Wing It

"Getting his affairs in order".


2 posted on 03/03/2005 5:00:29 PM PST by IncPen ( The Problem with Communism (liberalism) is that people like to own stuff - Frank Zappa)
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To: Right Wing It

This news is many months old.


3 posted on 03/03/2005 5:00:36 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: Right Wing It

When the reaper taps his sickle on the window, that makes believers out of us all.


4 posted on 03/03/2005 5:01:25 PM PST by evolved_rage (OLAP SCHMOLAP)
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To: Right Wing It

This is only a month or so old. there have been several threads on it.


5 posted on 03/03/2005 5:01:30 PM PST by js1138
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To: Right Wing It

this one's a blast from the past.


6 posted on 03/03/2005 5:03:21 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

Sorry, i never saw anything on it, i searched under wrong keywords i guess.


7 posted on 03/03/2005 5:04:15 PM PST by Right Wing It (www.conservativetruths.blogspot.com)
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To: Right Wing It

I wrote a novelle about this years ago, titled "Turnabout'. My character was a Saganesque atheist who had a near death experience and returned to procl;aim there absolutely is life after earth and he had met 'The Listener' on the otherside. It was a fun write, with several surprising turns I didn't anticipate.


8 posted on 03/03/2005 5:08:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Right Wing It

thanks for posting it.


9 posted on 03/03/2005 5:12:56 PM PST by Mercat (smeeeeee)
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To: Right Wing It
Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.

...So, PLEASE DON'T PRAY FOR ME!

10 posted on 03/03/2005 5:14:40 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.")
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11 posted on 03/03/2005 5:19:21 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Right Wing It
An atheist was taking a walk through the woods." What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look and saw a 7-foot grizzly charging towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer.

He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the atheist cried out: "Oh my God!..."

Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky:

"You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don't exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"

The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a Christian?"

"Very well," said the voice.

The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. The bear dropped his right paw, sat back on his haunches, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke:

"Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty thru Christ our Lord... Amen."

12 posted on 04/13/2005 7:27:49 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Right Wing It
"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins...."

AMEN

So9

13 posted on 04/13/2005 7:46:53 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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