Posted on 03/11/2005 11:17:54 PM PST by CurlyBill
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -Carl Sagan
You really need to get a grip. I didn't insult anyone. My post was not insulting either. Calm down and try to be civil.
In fact, the only one who has broken any rule seems to be Houmatt who called us all "Jackasses".
Now that's not very nice at all.
I have disagreed with many a FReeper, but have refrained from name-calling. The argumentum ad-hominem is not a way to convince people of your righteousness.
Did you friend mention, by any chance, how many bottles of pumpkin wine he'd consumed before he saw the apparition? :-)
Gee, couldn't we just sit down and make up crap like this too?
I think the apparitions started after the first $250,000 in lawyer bills.
You not only make two posts in response, but also send me a Freepmail.
As I am so fond of saying, build a bridge and get over it.
I stand by my original post, and it applies to anyone and everyone who wishes to mock those who believe in ghosts.
Kinda like the irrefutable fact that UFOs are only spottable from rural trailer parks.
Is a private home that a family lives in fall under your description of a WalMart?
Every family member can tell of doors being opened and dishes in the kitchen being placed or moved on the kitchen counter or in the sink.
They have never reported this for public consumption and as yet, have yet to make a dime from this female ghost who happens to be the wifes mother.
Ghosts...dead people. Haunting us from the other side or limbo or whatever. This is a pretty incredible assertion. Where does the burden of proof fall?
Evidence. I want something that can be measured, repeated, quantified, held up to peer review to the world. What is the most likely explanation? Ghosts or the human mind?
We are still figuring out how the human brain works. Look at what hypnotism can do with the human mind. It is pretty complex thing we are just scratching the surface.
A human also makes a poor scientific apparatus for recording such things. We all have propensitys to give explanations to things we dont fully understand with what our minds have been taught by society. Ever talk to two people that saw the same event? Both are usually different.
Lots of little experiments with that in school Im sure we all have done them.
People believe all kinds of things. Doesnt make it fact. My brother thinks hes been to Mars through out of body experience. Hes my brother, never know we were related in this regard. I dont argue with him anymore, let him believe what makes him happy. He wants to believe it so bad it becomes real.
I will never change a "believers" mind to consider another explanation. However I am open to any and all evidence, and I mean real evidence that has stood the test of scientific process and peer review. This is usually rejected by believers. Always some kind of reason why it cant meet scientific criteria. This is a big red flag to me on anything.
Its like the UFO phenomena, something is seen that has no immediate explanation and a terrible logic flaw is made. Jumping to conclusions that its "aliens".
Whoah, its just something in the sky that is unidentified. You cant jump to conclusions like that.
Seeing things and bumps in the night do not an afterlife make. I need more then feelings or storys from people.
I need more then wanting to believe or *not* wanting to believe. I simply seek evidence.
Proof of an aferlife has been sought for millenia. Nobody has proven it yet. Faith is usually the required mindset.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence- Carl Sagan
When and if that extraordinary evidence comes, Ill be right there reading every word.
Please read post #19.
Like I said, spend a weekend at the Myrtles Plantation. They have extraordinary evidence coming out of the tuchis.
I just went to their website and you're right....
$230 a night scared the hell out of me : )
WOW! I haven't seen that crew since the 50's!
I'd like to be relatively polite and say you owe me a new keyboard, but I'm afraid I'll be needing a new office chair. ;-)
Bump
Anne Jeffreys - the ghostess with the most-ess!
You are wise in your assertions, but have you had any experiences yourself that cannot be put to your tests? You think your brother is crazy, but did you inquire throughout your family and close friends their stories, where you could look then in the eye enough to give them benefit of the doubt?
The stuff we are talking about requires YOU to experience something, then as "victim" justify said experience without coming off as a mental patient, or out to sell something.
Topper... good childhood memories.
Sounds like y'all's ghost needs more aggressive marketing.
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