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Eighteen Hundred And Froze To Death (The Infamous 'Year Without Summer')
Island Net.com ^ | 4-7-2004 | Keith C. Heidon,PhD,ACM

Posted on 03/12/2005 8:10:49 PM PST by blam

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Very interesting. Good post.


21 posted on 03/12/2005 10:20:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Thanks for the post, it is quite an interesting bit of history. [Too bad the history channel did not have something on it, but they were too busy with UFOs again tonight. ]


22 posted on 03/12/2005 10:58:27 PM PST by JLS
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We live on upper yukon, it was 48 above today; but will probably be zero nx week. Had about a month and a half of minus 50-60 this winter.

Know some people that live downriver and live about exclusively on what they grow & catch. That means they eat beets, carotts, and lettuce in about everything along with moose and salmon. Maybe every other year their spuds make it. No complaining from them though. Summer snowfall common here and you plan for it. We always get 1000 lb potatoes, and use plastic for frost.

Cold summers are like Y2K fears.

23 posted on 03/13/2005 12:08:29 AM PST by Eska
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bttt


24 posted on 03/13/2005 12:10:41 AM PST by nopardons
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"The most likely cause was volcanic influences. Proponents note that a number of major volcanic eruptions preceded 1816: Soufriére and St. Vincent in 1812: Mayon and Luzon in the Phillippines during 1814; Tambora in Indonesia during 1815. The volcanic theory of climatic influence relates increased volcanic activity with decreased temperatures due to the increased reflection of solar radiation from volcanic dust blown and trapped high in the atmosphere. The Tambora eruption has been estimated to be the most violent in historical times. The explosion is believed to have lifted 150 to 180 cubic kilometres of material into the atmosphere. For a comparison, the infamous 1883 eruption of Krakatau ejected only 20 cubic kilometres of material into the air, and yet it affected sunsets for several years after."

The Tambora eruption was in a league of its own - in historic times.

25 posted on 03/13/2005 12:12:51 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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ping for later read.
26 posted on 03/13/2005 1:10:36 AM PST by codyjacksmom (Be nice! I'm blonde and will work for an explanation.)
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This was obviously caused by burning fossil fuels causing the greenhouse effect.
Thankfully we have the Kyoto treaty to change all that /sarc
27 posted on 03/13/2005 1:45:50 AM PST by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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I just completed watching a special on the Tambora (Pompeii In The East), on the Discovery Channel.

I saw part of that show, (fell asleep, the hazzard of eating dinner and then lying in bed).

The caldera (?) is hugh, five miles across?

28 posted on 03/13/2005 1:59:33 AM PST by csvset
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"The caldera (?) is hugh, five miles across?"

Yup. Compare that to the Yellowstone caldera (super-volcano) which is 50 miles across

29 posted on 03/13/2005 6:54:16 AM PST by blam
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......and here I was thinking that only human activity could affect climate change. [/sarcasm]

Thanks.

30 posted on 03/13/2005 7:01:30 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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"I just completed watching a special on the Tambora"

Saw that too. Excellent.


31 posted on 03/13/2005 7:14:15 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Eska

I guess it's all relative. We lost almost all our apples last year and the year before because of late frosts, and my kids planted the vegetable garden several times. Maybe this year we'll do better. We have some really old apple trees. They're small and gnarly looking but much tastier than the new ones.


32 posted on 03/13/2005 1:28:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We usually plant everything 1st June, long summer sunshine warms everything up last week of may. 50-50 that you'll have a frost until 3rd week of june, but then usually good until 3rd week of august. LOw places and along river sometimes gets hit more often. I'm even thinking about sweet potatoes under plastic this year and I have friends that actually grow their own 4-5 foot tobacco plants and say its better than no ciggs at all.

I know people that grow spliced apple trees and they survive the minus 60 winter temps but the moose are hard on them.

33 posted on 03/13/2005 3:29:56 PM PST by Eska
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I just prune the old trees, I haven't planted any, but as I understand it all apple trees in common use are grafted. You take a hardy rootstock and graft the kind of apple tree you want onto it. That's why new shoots coming up from the roots need to be cut back, because they won't produce any useful fruit.

We get down to around 30 below here from time to time, so we need hardy stock, but that's still quite a ways above 50 below.


34 posted on 03/13/2005 7:01:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Bookmark.

Most people don't realize but for the last 100 or so years we have been in a warming trend. We should be at the end of it now though.


35 posted on 03/16/2005 6:05:21 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Global cooling.


36 posted on 03/16/2005 6:06:33 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Indiana became a state in 1816, I've often wondered if there were a connection or the year without summer was an omen.........


37 posted on 03/16/2005 6:10:02 AM PST by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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What was the summer weather forecast like in Northern New England between 100,000 and 12,000 years ago.

Weather Channel spokesman: - 50 F today, high 60 mile per hour winds, glacier expected to remain 1/2 mile thick in the long-term 1,000 year forecast. Same tomorrow.


38 posted on 03/16/2005 6:12:52 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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Catastrophism ping, and to all a good night.
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39 posted on 04/03/2005 9:39:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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Thanks for the ping to more of blam's good stuff!

This news just in:

AFTER TWO LARGE ANNUAL GAINS, RATE OF ATMOSPHERIC CO2 INCREASE RETURNS TO AVERAGE, NOAA REPORTS

40 posted on 04/03/2005 10:36:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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