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SCHIAVO CASE: APPEAL COURT SAYS NO TO HER PARENTS
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Posted on 03/16/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: jwalsh07
By this reasoning, a Chinese Christian with a child and another on the way is to honor the rules of men ("one child") above the Law of God.

God's law is the Law of Laws (The Lex [lat.] Nom [gr.]).

521 posted on 03/16/2005 5:26:41 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: bjs1779
I am threatening NO ONE, man.

Look, full disclosure, okay? I disagree with the majority of y'all about this whole thing and the way you're doing business.

HOWEVER, it's obvious how passionate and concerned you all are nonetheless. I was just offering a warning to those who don't apparently know how offside Gritz's minions can be.

SHEESH! How paranoid ARE you guys?

522 posted on 03/16/2005 5:26:42 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut
SHEESH! How paranoid ARE you guys?

Why are you asking? Only a member of the "Kill Terri" conspiracy would ask that! (Goes back to eating Y2K survival rations and cleaning guns.)

BTW, that was sarcasm.

523 posted on 03/16/2005 5:29:29 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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To: Lexinom
The prohib against murder includes self. That can be established from Scripture as well.

Care to share where?

Michael's word, judging by his character as deduced from his actions and police reports, cannot be trusted.

Many courts have looked directly at this issue and disagree with you. That is your problem. I frankly don't know whether "Michael's word ... can[] be trusted" or not, but I know that courts have exhaustively looked directly at that issue and have (apparently) decided that the evidence is not strong enough to overturn the presumption that the husband will act in the best interests of his wife. I accept that.

I care that an innocent woman is going to be starved to death.

No, she can pick up a spoon and eat whenever she wishes (and is able). What has been decided is that the husband can decide that no extraordinary means may be used to force feed her to keep her (in some very limited sense) "alive."

As one whose wife died 18 months ago from cancer amid great suffering, I am grateful for that deference being enshrined in the principles of our law. My wife told me what she wanted; she never wrote it down (because she was too sick to do so). I executed her wishes because I loved her so. I would not have wanted anyone (or group of well-meaning 'anyones') to come in and put her through more agony of chemotherapy when she wanted to go Home to be with her Lord.

Folks, too many here have lost sight of the situation and, most of all, that the critical decision is who should make that decision. The courts, after hearing almost endless, heartrending testimony have decided the husband should. I accept that.

524 posted on 03/16/2005 5:30:45 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: Long Cut; Poohbah
"I'm convinced Americans cannot break the law to keep the law." Bo Gritz.
525 posted on 03/16/2005 5:32:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Wow, you found ONE quote of his where he sounds sane.


526 posted on 03/16/2005 5:32:55 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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To: winstonchurchill
You post a long affidavit, designed to support the position that Terry's husband is not a very nice individual and may not have her best interests at heart.

Do you have something against a long affidavit by someone who has nothing to gain by telling the truth? Terri is been in solitary confinement for some 13 years now. Surly the lenght of that post pales in comparison. My apolgies if you think otherwise.

527 posted on 03/16/2005 5:32:58 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: Poohbah
Wow, you found ONE quote of his where he sounds sane.

Actually, that quote is from his comments about the Terri Schiavo case on his website. Further down the page are reccomendations on how to help Terri Schiavo survive. None mention gouging, biting, bullets, handguns, M60's, Ak's, knives, fists or other assorted sundries one uses in a hostile takeover.

The thread is about Terri Schiavo, not Bo Gritz.

528 posted on 03/16/2005 5:36:10 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: winstonchurchill
I care that an innocent woman is going to be starved to death. No, she can pick up a spoon and eat whenever she wishes (and is able). What has been decided is that the husband can decide that no extraordinary means may be used to force feed her to keep her (in some very limited sense) "alive."

You are incorrect in this statement. Judge Greer has ruled that she is to be starved- no food or water is allowed. Now you tell me how that is humane.

529 posted on 03/16/2005 5:37:29 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: BykrBayb

Well said!


530 posted on 03/16/2005 5:37:48 PM PST by middie
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To: jwalsh07
So howcum it is that he's given speeches to neo-Nazi groups?

If you take him, you WILL get his lice along with him. How much good will that do you?

Or is the publicity worth even THAT?

531 posted on 03/16/2005 5:38:11 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: Long Cut
I am threatening NO ONE, man.-Long Cut

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"If there IS any kind of "disobedience", "disorder", or "insurrection", your cause is toast."-Long Cut

"Hurt or kill anyone, and it's over, both for Terri and anyone there." - Long Cut

532 posted on 03/16/2005 5:38:12 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: Lexinom
we might be able to ascertain the truth/falshood of this statement if Michael had used her rehabilitation funds for rehabilitation instead of legal fees - all the while pointing to her lack of improvement (as a result of his misappropriation of her funds)...

Since this argument is not new, I suspect that some court along the way has had the opportunity to find such uses to be "misappropriation" and declined to do so. Is it possible that it wasn't misappropriation?

533 posted on 03/16/2005 5:39:04 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: bjs1779

That's not a threat; that's what happens when people get violent, nobody wants to be associated with them.


534 posted on 03/16/2005 5:39:45 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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To: bjs1779
Dude, I didn't threaten anyone. Do you DOUBT that those outcomes will happen? That's REALITY.

I'm not even gonna be anywhere NEAR the state of Florida. I'm just explaining to you what the press, the cops, and the courts are going to do if there is ANY trouble there.

Do you think they'd ignore it?

535 posted on 03/16/2005 5:40:12 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: bjs1779; Lexinom; BykrBayb; pc93; atruelady; carenot; rdcorso; proudCArepublican; Politicalmom; ...

TERRI SCHIAVO INFORMATION PAGE

BONE SCAN SHOWS TRAUMA

AFFIDAVIT OF CARLA IYER, R.N.

536 posted on 03/16/2005 5:40:16 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Long Cut

Look, you want to talk about the Schiavo case, I'm all ears. You want to talk about Gritz, go somewhere else.


537 posted on 03/16/2005 5:40:53 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Long Cut

You are the one preaching violence by supposing it will
happen.

You are creating the element of hyteria.

"My cause"? Me? Try millions of others.


538 posted on 03/16/2005 5:41:23 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Poohbah
That's not a threat; that's what happens when people get violent, nobody wants to be associated with them.

I take it that you would not want to be associated with our founding fathers then either, correct?

539 posted on 03/16/2005 5:42:18 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: Poohbah
Looks like the zombies have found the mall. I'm outta here, Pooh. Take care.

If these folks can't distinguish between a warning and a threat, well, let them HAVE the Gritz blitzkrieg.

I tried, and I was being as honest as possible.

540 posted on 03/16/2005 5:42:41 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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