Posted on 03/16/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.
Just Damn.
I'd just like to know how long he waited before he started openly cheating on her. It's interesting to me that he claims the right to make medical decsions for her, but he doesn't feel any need to honor the vows that he made to her.
Michael started dating Jodi in 1995, at least that's the earliest date that I've seen. We know for sure that they became engaged in the summer of 1997 when the obituary for Michael's mother mentions Jodi as Michael's fiancee. Their first child was born in Sept. 2001, and the second was born right around the end of October, 2003. The first was a little girl, and I do not know the sex of the second.
Sheila Jackson Lee is opposing the bill on c-span right now and she tied her opposition to a "possible down the road opportunity to take away A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE"
In other words, they are making this an abortion issue!!!!
This is a really good question and is in fact the reason I have spent so much time tonight responding to these posts.
Let me say it clearly, YES, I do have a problem with that. Because of my personal experience.
As I mentioned above, 18 months and 7 days ago, my wife passed away from cancer. At the end, I made the decision to end chemotherapy and pursue hospice care only. Thankfully, my wife's physicians fully concurred.
Would I have had a problem if some loonies in "... the legislature pass[ed] a law that the husband's instructions for public policy reasons sufficient to them give the circumstances should not be followed ...." You bet your bippy.
While that was the worst decision I have ever had to make, there simply was no one in the world better positioned to make that decision than me. No judge, no panel, no doctor, and surely -- surely -- no legislature.
I hate to think what I might have done if someone had tried to interfere and make my wife continue to suffer. I might not be a free man today.
My wife's illness and ultimate death was most assuredly not "public policy" -- it was a private decision of hers and, when she could no longer make it, of mine for her.
In a ruling on March 7, 2005, Judge Greer denied the Schindlers appeal to be able to feed Terri by mouth in the event that the tube was removed. Judge Greer ruled that feeding her by mouth would be "experimental" and denied the request. I would post the court ruling here but it is a PDF and is a scanned version that is not able to be copied.
Thank you for the information. And he had a girlfriend prior to Jodi? I can't believe that she is referred to as his fiancee while his wife is still alive.
DEATH CULTISTS! IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BTTT!!!!!! MURDERERS!!!!!!
April 2001, Transcript of Cindy (Brasher) Shook’s Radio Interview w/Carrie Kirkland
So serious is the crime of murder, in fact, that God prescribes the death penalty to those who do it (Gen. 9:6). The reason given: Man is made in the image of God. By this biblical reasoning - which you have appropriately brought forth in an earlier post - Michael Schiavo should face the death penalty for murdering an innocent human being. The judges, at odds with God's law, are likewise complicit in murder. Of course this will not happen, but their actions will be adjudicated and avenged by the final Judge, absent atonement through Christ.
If you subject the bible to higher criticism, as did your namesake Winston Churchill (brilliant politician, awful theologian ["The Inside of the Cup". New York. Gossett and Dunlap Publishers. May 1912.]), you lose all basis aside from your own subjective feelings for deciding which Scripture is accurate/inspired and which is not. We can then twist things about such that bad is good and good is bad ala Isa. 5:20:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
In the process, we lose the firm foundation and are to be found floating into the oblivion of relativity with the existentialists, atheists, and other poor, hopeless souls.
As to the silence of Scripture on certain explicit activities like drug use, we can draw conclusions from parallel things which are mentioned, such as drunkness, and the body (of a Christian) being the temple of the Holy Ghost. We can also draw conclusions about things such as smoking - certainly not a sin, but foolish for the health.
absent sufficient proof of ill-will to displace him
It seems the proof is there, but his powers are such that he is able to prevent it from ever coming to light. He has jumped through all the legal hoops. Michael Schiavo has not exhibited the open and honest attitude of one with a clean conscience. On the contrary, he is very secretive and "protective" of Terri, as if afraid of some discovery. If he truly loved Terri, he would
* want her family to have complete freedom to visit her.
* order regular dental care (her teeth are presently rotting due to a lack thereof).
* have therapies aimed at improving her quality of life, such as restoring her ability to speak and swallow.
* have the broken bones in her body properly mended (I'm not a doctor and don't know if this is possible. BTW how did she get the broken bones to begin with?)
. They have scrupulously (so far as I can tell and no one here argues to the contrary) reviewed the evidence against the husband and have found that it does not overcome the presumption that he can properly discharge his function of making those decisions.
As someone pointer out earlier, Greer discounted Dr. Gambone's testimony. He accepted Dr. Bambakidis'. Gambone was Terri's doctor for 15 years. Bambakidis spent less than an hour with Terri.
sourceMYTH: Many doctors have said that there is no hope for her. FACT: Dr. Victor Gambone testified that he visits Terri 3 times a year. His visits last for approximately 10 minutes. He also testified, after viewing the court videotapes at Terri’s recent trial, that he was surprised to see Terri’s level of awareness. This doctor is part of a team hand-picked by her husband, Michael Schiavo, shortly before he filed to have Terri’s feeding removed. Contrary to Schiavo’s team, 14 independent medical professionals (6 of them neurologists) have given either statements or testimony that Terri is NOT in a Persistent Vegetative State. Additionally, there has never been any medical dispute of Terri’s ability to swallow. Even with this compelling evidence, Terri’s husband, Michael Schiavo, has denied any form of therapy for her for over 10 years.
Dr. Melvin Greer [HMMM, ANY RELATION?]
Dr. Melvin Greer, appointed by Schiavo, testified that a doctor need not examine a patient to know the appropriate medical treatment. He spent approximately 45 minutes with Terri. Dr. Peter Bambakidis, appointed by Judge Greer, spent approximately 30 minutes with Terri. Dr. Ronald Cranford, also appointed by Schiavo and who has publicly labeled himself “Dr. Death”, spent less than 45 minutes examining and interacting with Terri.
During a 2002 medical evidentiary hearing, Dr. Victor Gambone testified that he certified Terri as terminally ill so that she could be placed in Hospice Woodside. When questioned under oath why, he said it was because Michael told him to do so.
journals.aol.com/justice1949/JUSTICEFORTERRISCHIAVO/entries/333
and here are 4 articles at TEJ mentioning Dr. Gambone...
In response to your #580, the actions of the courts in this case - not because I don't like the result but rather the vetting criteria for evidence that accepts and eliminates based on a criteria besides merit and provability - shows them to be more advocate than judge. The foregoing demonstrates this. Their actions nullify the weight of your argument drawing on a continued appeal thereto - they have ignored key evidence in this case. Are you prepared to back up a charge that this is all fabricated?
23. Heidi Law, Certified Nursing Assistant
2003 affidavit regarding Michael’s abusive behavior while Terri was in a nursing home
OMG.
By the way, was your wife sentient, or did she have a living Will? If so, that moots everything.
The one that came from the Wizard of Oz?
Other way around.
The original proposition was to send Gov. Bush a copy of the chart that is so often posted. There is no way to ascertain stress patterns, inflections etc. without sound. Would you not agree that an audio tape, in addition to the chart, would be more effective than just the chart itself?
Would I have had a problem if some loonies in "... the legislature pass[ed] a law that the husband's instructions for public policy reasons sufficient to them give the circumstances should not be followed ...." You bet your bippy.
While that was the worst decision I have ever had to make, there simply was no one in the world better positioned to make that decision than me. No judge, no panel, no doctor, and surely -- surely -- no legislature.
I hate to think what I might have done if someone had tried to interfere and make my wife continue to suffer. I might not be a free man today.
I don't see how ending chemotherapy compares to starvation?
You stated that you "made the decision to end chemotherapy and pursue hospice care only" -how did this end your wife's suffering?
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