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1 posted on 03/16/2005 10:25:18 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Brought to you by the UAW.


2 posted on 03/16/2005 10:30:30 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: BurbankKarl
Standard & Poor's on Wednesday revised its rating outlook on GM and its finance arm to negative from stable, setting the stage for a downgrade of the world's biggest carmaker to junk status.

Might as well give the bonds the same ratings as the cars. ;)

3 posted on 03/16/2005 10:33:19 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: BurbankKarl
The main reasons for this failure are not mentioned:

...lousy, overpriced cars and the UAW.

8 posted on 03/16/2005 10:42:20 AM PST by Gritty ("Once you’re talking about taking it back you’ve already lost it"-Mark Steyn)
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To: BurbankKarl

WOW G M losses ? Maybe they can re-coop by "charging" the
marine reservist for parking on the G M lot during weekend
drills. (No BUSH bumper stickers allowed though)..........


9 posted on 03/16/2005 10:43:23 AM PST by lionheart 247365
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The automaker blamed lower sales in North America and a shift in the sales mix away from high-profit trucks to lower-profit cars for the earnings falloff.

The market at work due to higher oil prices. I hope this US manufacturer has learned its lessons from the 1970 oil crisis...

17 posted on 03/16/2005 10:49:14 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: BurbankKarl; A. Pole
The automaker blamed lower sales in North America and a shift in the sales mix away from high-profit trucks to lower-profit cars for the earnings falloff.

This is no surprize. When 70% of your economy is consumer spending, and those consumers are losing jobs to outsourcing and immigration, and the lucky consumers who still have jobs are suffering pay cuts combined with tax increases, discretionary spending will decline.

Productivity is higher, and investment returns reflect that, but the investors reaping the benefits are a minority of the population of consumers. The individuals among the investor class aren't going to buy up the surplus vehicles just because they have the extra cash or the cash flow. Foreign markets in China and India haven't opened up as promised to buy up the surplus.

With declining sales, profits will decline. With declining profits, investment in the stocks will decline. With declining demand for the stocks, the stock prices will decline.

That is what happened in the late twenties, and it is happening again.

20 posted on 03/16/2005 10:50:35 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: BurbankKarl

The auto industry is a major leader of the national economy. When autos sag, the economy slows. Which one is the cause and which the effect is not clear, it is somewhat symbiotic. Autos weaken, economy slows, other sectors, including housing follow. The question is how long and how deep the effects.


28 posted on 03/16/2005 11:00:41 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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DAMN!!!! Give those union boys another raise!


43 posted on 03/16/2005 11:20:41 AM PST by Jaysun (If you eat mayonnaise on your hot dogs please don't talk to me.)
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Analysts React to GM Warning
March 16, 2005 3:30 p.m.

General Motors Corp. was hammered in the market today after saying it expects to lose $1.50 a share in the first quarter. Analysts weren't too kind either, noting the auto maker's falling market share, reduced plans for car production, and fears that the company's debt could be downgraded to junk status. Here's a roundup of what Wall Street is saying. (Analyst disclosures follow.)

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GM's outlook for 2005 is materially weaker. The downgrade is a result of the company's announcement that market conditions are pressuring results more than originally anticipated. As a result, the company now expects 2005 EPS to be in the range of $1.00 to $2.00, which is down from its previous guidance of $4.00 to $5.00.

-- Merrill Lynch analyst John Casesa, who downgraded the company to "sell" from "neutral."

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We continue to believe GM's products are overpriced (relative to the Japanese brands) by 10% to 15% due to weak resale values, and that the Japanese brand year-over-year net pricing has been flattish. So, the problem is structural and GM needs to lower net price (on a year-over-year basis) relative to the Japanese brands (a costly task) in order to stop the share loss.

-- Ronald Tadross of Bank of America, who has a "sell" rating on the stock, and lowered his price target on the company to $23 from $27

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Some of the first-quarter weakness probably relates to one-time pricing actions on midsize SUVs. We estimate the price cut on mid-SUVs would hurt EPS by about 35 cents to 40 cents in the first quarter. The magnitude of the miss vs. our forecast could suggest additional pricing action. Earnings and cash flow are much weaker than expected. This could suggest that GM's $2 dividend may be at risk.

-- Morgan Stanley analyst Stephen Girsky, who has an "equal-weight" rating on the stock

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Key drivers of the shortfall are weakness in North American sales volume and a higher concentration of lower-margin passenger cars in its sales mix…we expect downward pressure on the shares this morning and would not view this as a buying opportunity.

-- Jon Rogers of Citigroup Global Markets, who has a "hold" rating on the stock with a $36 target price

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We continue to believe GM is in a precarious position given lower GM North America production volumes, especially related to its highest profit platform, GMT800 [truck frame]; the challenging pricing environment; and less profitable mix (more cars/less trucks). We do not expect modest improvements from automotive operations outside North America to offset these domestic headwinds. … We remain confident that possible credit rating downgrades and a dividend cut are in the company's near-term future and will only add insult to injury.

-- Joseph Amaturo, analyst for Caylon Securities, who reiterated his "sell" rating on GM and lowered his price target to $24 from $30

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This news … is a reflection of the challenges GM is facing in terms of pricing and mix for the vehicles it sells. Further, we believe that additional production cuts [in the second quarter] may be necessary to bring inventory in line in the short term, which could be an additional drag to earnings and operating cash flow for the year. Perhaps most significantly, we believe that this poor operating performance in North America could result in a dividend reduction, which we believe would be viewed negatively by the market. While the company stressed that it is on pace to meet expectations for its other global operations, as North America is its most important market, we believe the near-term risks clearly outweigh any other factors.

-- KeyBank Capital Markets analyst Brett Hoselton, who downgraded GM to "hold" from "buy"

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For investors who need to be exposed to this automotive manufacturer, we recommend GMAC bonds over GM given that GMAC's receivables assets are of higher quality than GM's production facilities (which continue to suffer from shutdowns and write-offs). Also GMAC has additional funding sources outside of the unsecured debt markets. … We continue to be negative, longer-term on General Motors given continued pressure from foreign and "transplant" competition, a rising interest rate environment, and high labor and healthcare costs.

-- Brian Fox, analyst at McDonald Investments, of which KeyBanc Capital Markets is a division

--Compiled by Worth Civils and David Gaffen





Analyst Disclosures

• Merrill Lynch received compensation for investment-banking services within the last 12 months from GM.

• Bank of America received compensation for investment-banking services within the last 12 months.

• Morgan Stanley owns more than 1% of GM's stock and has received compensation for investment-banking services for the stock in the last 12 months.

• Citigroup Global Markets owns more than 1% of GM's stock and has received compensation for investment-banking services from the company in the last 12 months.

• Calyon Securities receives or has received compensation from GM for non-investment banking services (i.e., brokerage services) in the past 12 months.

• KeyBanc Capital Markets says GM is an investment banking client of the firm, which has received compensation for such services from the company during the past 12 months.


58 posted on 03/16/2005 7:16:23 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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GM.. switch to catastrophic care plans for your workers and self insure up to the cap... If GM put 5k per employee into an account for health care use, and insured only after the 5k was spent... (and what wasn't spent on the 5k is rolled over every year) you'd wind up cutting your recurring costs by 70 to 80%.... yes, up front cost is there, but long term return is there....

This is basically what we are going to be doing sooner or later anyway, why not be the first mover on the block?


78 posted on 03/17/2005 8:34:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BurbankKarl

Bump for later.


85 posted on 03/17/2005 3:29:10 PM PST by Springman (I'm from Detroit, need I say more?)
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