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Mexican president announces initiative for North American cooperation
Fort Worth Star-Telegram/AP ^ | March 16, 2005 | John Rice

Posted on 03/16/2005 1:45:46 PM PST by La Enchiladita

MEXICO CITY - The leaders of the United States, Mexico and Canada, confronting the growth of rival groups in Europe and Asia, hope to strengthen their free-trade pact by signing an "Initiative for North America" next week in Texas, Mexico President Vicente Fox said Wednesday.

But Fox made clear that tensions remain over how to secure the countries' borders, criticizing new U.S. walls running along parts of its 2,000-mile frontier with Mexico. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

Fox, President Bush and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin are scheduled to meet March 23 at Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch during Bush's Easter vacation.

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Speaking at a news conference with U.S. and Canadian reporters, Fox vowed to take legal action against migrant-hunting vigilantes in Arizona and promised to fight terrorism.

. . .

But in both Spanish and English, Fox repeatedly expressed concern about state initiatives to limit rights of migrants and services for them in the United States, and about the U.S. government's effort to slow migration by building walls.

"We are convinced that walls don't work. They should be torn down," Fox said. He called the walls "discriminatory; they attack liberty. So no country that is proud of itself should build walls. Nobody can isolate himself these days."

. . .

He said Mexicans "totally reject" the migrant hunters recently formed in Arizona to help stem the illegal crossings there, which have risen partly because of the construction of walls elsewhere. The vigilantes "are completely in violation of American law itself and in violation of laws anywhere," Fox said.

He said Mexico "will be very alert to react legally against any lawbreaking" by those groups, either under U.S. or international law.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; freetrade; illegal; immigration; minuteman; minutemanproject; neighbors; northamerica; paulmartin; prairiechapel; trade; vicentefox; vigilance
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To: ApesForEvolution
"for our own EU anti-sovereign-Consitutional HORSE*PUCKEY*???? "

Funny you should mention that. As our govt. seems to be dragging us into the same scam that the euros got, I decided to see what their border cooperation was like.

"Also, while it seems that the formal development of such a body has been placed on the back burner for the time being, the EU has instead been developing an alternative approach to greater cooperation on external border control. In place of purely national or wholly or partly 'European' external border control, the EU is setting up a complex system of coordination between national border authorities, likely to involve the use of coercive power by 'visiting' border guards. Our concern is that there is no adequate arrangement for accountability and many aspects of the EU's developing plans raise serious civil liberties concerns."

http://www.statewatch.org/docbin/evidence/eurbordergdmay03.html

81 posted on 03/16/2005 5:33:38 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: k2blader

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1362884/posts


82 posted on 03/16/2005 5:34:21 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: monkeywrench

Oh, I know all too well...thank you for digging in and posting that. This is the big deal of our time...America: to be, or not to be. Son of a "B"!


83 posted on 03/16/2005 5:35:57 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: drt1

I can comment on that, but like the prominent University executives on the East Coast, the truth would be too much to handle...


84 posted on 03/16/2005 5:37:07 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: VOYAGER

I felt the passion in that one, brother...


85 posted on 03/16/2005 5:38:04 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: La Enchiladita

bump


86 posted on 03/16/2005 5:38:04 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: EagleUSA

He is attempting to use you like a crutch and will succeed if you are wooed by his siren song.
======
** AND SO FAR, HE HAS PLAYED BUSH LIKE A FIDDLE **

..who in turn, is making the U.S. citizen PAY FOR ALL OF IT, and watch the DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR COUNTRY DESTROYED, watch the meaning of U.S. CITIZENSHIP made into a mockery, watch the meaning of our SYSTEM OF LAWS laughed at, and watch our BORDERS become token lines on a map....

>>>

Just damn.


87 posted on 03/16/2005 5:39:07 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: La Enchiladita; Bluegrass Conservative; Shermy; ApesForEvolution; mlc9852; LauraleeBraswell; ...
"How about that? Another country's president telling us that it is illegal for us to show patriotism? That we have no right to protest the criminal activities of his citizens within our borders?"

==================================

WHY EL PRESIDENT VINCINTE FOX OWNS YOUR BORDER (AND YOU DON'T)

88 posted on 03/16/2005 5:47:02 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Fox is rubbing Americas noses in it...and he KNOWS he is doing it. Fox knows this because the Hispanic culture is very concerned with male pride...its another way of saying machismo. Mexico and Fox would be offended if Bush said these things in regards to any Mexican citizens actions.

So its an insult...you know it...I know it....and the people who support Bushs immmigration proposal know it too.

Now, Bush has to take a stand with Fox at some point. Forget the policy, forget the diplomacy, forget the strategy.

Sometimes it is just a matter of pride.


89 posted on 03/16/2005 5:50:21 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Dat Mon
the Hispanic culture is very concerned with male pride

Very sensitive about "pride" indeed. ......especially since they've done nothing to earn it.

90 posted on 03/16/2005 5:53:34 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ApesForEvolution

I love how Fox is bragging about low jobless rate---the lowest in North America or somesuch---

of course it is, he sends his unemployed here to the US to take care of---what a pile of horsesh*t this guy is...

I wish Bush would just tell Fox and Martin that they are just to uppity for we Americans and that until they straighten up their acts and start realizing how good they have it by being on OUR border instead of oh, say, Russia or China's, he won't meet with them---


91 posted on 03/16/2005 5:57:44 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I just hope we're turning the corner on this thing and that it's not too let to save our country.

I'm going to do what I can, especially since I am here in the DC area.


92 posted on 03/16/2005 5:59:26 PM PST by HighFlier
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To: Txsleuth

You and I both understand in spades who is really running this nation...it's above Bush's head IMO. He's a good, decent man whom I like and I agree with on so much.

This...this...this ABORTION of our Nation during his watch is simply appalling. He doesn't rate on my most effective President's list, securing the world and giving American away. Man, this one gets me...


93 posted on 03/16/2005 6:00:54 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: Dat Mon

Our sovereignty goes above any persons...


94 posted on 03/16/2005 6:02:11 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: F16Fighter; Marine Inspector; Travis McGee; wardaddy; Spiff; janetgreen; k2blader; Mr. Mojo; ...
One but only one of the SOILs (guess which one) is back beating the drums on behalf of the Soft On Illegals Lobby (SOILs). Guess they will never turn loose of that wet dream that the illegal alien mess is a single issue the voters care little about. That's not what I see in the polls or political chatter. It's already had a significant negative impact on Republican fund raising--and it's only going to get worse.

Message for the rest of the SOILs: It ain't goin' away.

95 posted on 03/16/2005 6:02:43 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; Travis McGee; Happy2BMe; HiJinx; DoughtyOne

Soft On Illegals Lobby (SOILs)


>>>


Look for that one to show up on the radio down the road...lol


96 posted on 03/16/2005 6:05:55 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

I'm glad you feel the same way that I do about Dubya--I really, really like him, and so when considering this, I get more confused and frustrated than angry, because I truly think he wants what is best for America---

and, I would think he wants what is best for Texas---But,
the lackadaisical (sp) way he approaches this, makes me really curious that there is something we don't know...


97 posted on 03/16/2005 6:07:10 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: ApesForEvolution

You said..."Our sovereignty goes above any persons...


Absolutely....didnt mean to reduce it to ego...

I think a national pride does tend to go hand in hand with wanting to protect your sovereignty though.


98 posted on 03/16/2005 6:09:29 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Txsleuth

Pres. GW Bush was born into an abortion-embracing family of true Globalism...his environmental upbringing was unfortunate.

I believe Laura, our 1st Lady, is a pro-abort as well. Sad.


99 posted on 03/16/2005 6:09:40 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: Dat Mon

Oh, yes, I agree. My apologies for any misunderstanding...


100 posted on 03/16/2005 6:10:11 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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