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“Little Eichmanns” and “Digital Brownshirts”
National Review ^ | 3/18/05 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/18/2005 4:57:56 AM PST by mal

The effort to remove fascists in the Middle East and jump-start democracy, for all its ups and downs, has been opposed not just by principled critics who bristled at tactics and strategy, but also by peculiarly vehement cynics here and abroad — whose disgust was so often in direct proportion to their relative political impotence.

One of their most hackneyed charges, begun almost at the beginning of this war, has been the Bush/America as Hitler/Nazi Germany comparison. True, fast-changing events in the Middle East recently have left many of these hypercritics either embarrassed, discredited — or desperately reinventing themselves into the “I told you so” crowd. But we should not forget these slurs — nor expect them to disappear entirely inasmuch as they reflect a deep sort of self-loathing among Western elites.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: digitalbrownshirts; littleeichmanns; slur; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 03/18/2005 4:57:56 AM PST by mal
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To: mal
Whatever one thinks of Bush’s Iraqi campaign, the president obtained congressional approval to invade and pledged $87 billion to rebuild the country. He freely weathered mass street demonstrations and a hostile global media, successfully defended his Afghan and Iraq reconstructions through a grueling campaign and three presidential debates, and won a national plebiscite on his tenure.

Yeah, but other than that he's EXACTLY like Hitler. /slobbering spittle flecked mantra

2 posted on 03/18/2005 5:03:49 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: mal
Those "people" that use those terms could care less about anything else. They are infected with "It's Americas Fault" syndrome. There is never any solution from them...just shot in dark blame.Then they wonder why sKerry lost.
3 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:27 AM PST by Dallas59 ("F--- Saddam. Were taking him out." -- George Bush, March 2002)
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To: Dallas59
In addition, those same "people" support be headings, homicide bombers, assassinations, censorship, communism, government control of the press, government control of speech, government control of business and would willingly destroy all individualism including their own.
4 posted on 03/18/2005 5:40:40 AM PST by Dallas59 ("F--- Saddam. Were taking him out." -- George Bush, March 2002)
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To: mal; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...
Victor Davis Hanson:

.....Ignorance and arrogance are a lethal combination. Nowhere do we see that more clearly among writers and performers who pontificate as historians when they know nothing about history.

...Entire continents can play this game. If Europe is awash in anti-Semitism, then one mechanism to either ignore or excuse it is to allege that the United States — the one country that is the most hospitable to Jews — is governed by a Hitler-like killer. Americans, who freed Europe from the Nazis, are supposed to recoil from such slander rather than cry shame on its promulgators, whose grandfathers either capitulated to the Nazis or collaborated — or were Nazis themselves.

If the sick analogy to Hitler is intended to conjure up a mass murderer, then the 20th century’s two greatest killers, Mao and Stalin, who slaughtered or starved somewhere around 80 million between them, are less regularly evoked. Perhaps that omission is because so many of the mass demonstrators, who bore placards of Bush’s portrait defaced with Hitler’s moustache, are overtly leftist and so often excuse extremist violence — whether in present-day Cuba or Zimbabwe — if it is decorated with the rhetoric of radical enforced equality.

....But something has gone terribly wrong with a mainstream Left that tolerates a climate where the next logical slur easily devolves into Hitlerian invective. The problem is not just the usual excesses of pundits and celebrities ......, but also supposedly responsible officials of the opposition such as former Sen. John Glenn, who said of the Bush agenda: “It’s the old Hitler business.”

....Is there a danger to all this? Plenty. The slander not only brings a president down to the level of an evil murderer, but — as worried Jewish leaders have pointed out — elevates the architect of genocide to the level of an American president. Do the ghosts of six million that were incinerated — or, for that matter, the tens of millions who were killed to promote or stop Hitler’s madness — count for so little that they can be so promiscuously induced when one wishes to object to stopping the filibuster of senatorial nominations or to ignore the objection of Europeans in removing the fascistic Saddam Hussein?

There is something profoundly immoral for a latte-sipping, upscale Westerner of the postmodern age flippantly evoking Hitler when we think of the countless souls lost to the historical record who were systematically starved and gassed in the factories of death of the Third Reich.

.....The final irony? The president who is most slandered as Hitler will probably prove to be the most zealous advocate of democratic government abroad, the staunchest friend of beleaguered Israel, and the greatest promoter of global individual freedom in our recent memory. In turn, too many of the Left who used to talk about idealism and morality have so often shown themselves mean-spirited, cynical, and without faith in the spiritual power of democracy.

What an eerie — and depressing — age we live in.



    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

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5 posted on 03/18/2005 5:45:24 AM PST by Tolik
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
6 posted on 03/18/2005 5:46:30 AM PST by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: mal

It's too bad this article will not be read by those who need to read it. Of course it would probably go over there heads.

VDH is excellent once again.


7 posted on 03/18/2005 5:55:37 AM PST by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: mal
Ignorance and arrogance are a lethal combination. Nowhere do we see that more clearly among writers and performers who pontificate as historians when they know nothing about history.

Great line.

8 posted on 03/18/2005 6:12:16 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: kb2614
whose grandfathers either capitulated to the Nazis or collaborated — or were Nazis themselves.

ooooooouch!!! Thats going to leave a mark.

When all else fails, read the instructions (CCEL > Bibles and Commentaries)

9 posted on 03/18/2005 6:16:23 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0
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To: kb2614

This VDH essay really takes the left to the woodshed.

This is even more important because I've heard that VDH was considered a liberal - at least at one time. It sounds like he is now tired of lying down with those dogs and getting up with fleas.

On another note, the left doesn't care about "unleashing" the unhinged etc. as long as they can regain power.


10 posted on 03/18/2005 6:28:31 AM PST by Let's Roll ("Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: mal; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
PING...
11 posted on 03/18/2005 6:29:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

This is a GREAT read.


12 posted on 03/18/2005 6:31:53 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mal

The left will remain out of touch. Just recently Airhead Amerika had some commentary regarding Lebanon. The protestors were supposedly just a small minority right wing extremists (and puppets of Bush), while the majority were backing Hezbollah and the Syrians. Airhead went on about all the good things that Hezbollah was doing - clinics, daycare centers, etc (did they get that "information" from Sen Osama Mamma Patty Murray bin Idiot?).


13 posted on 03/18/2005 6:39:32 AM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: mal

Superb article!


14 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:57 AM PST by TChris (Lousy homophobic FReeper troll, religious right, VRWC member)
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To: Tolik

Thanks for including me on the ping. My liberal high-school buddy will now get new e-mail surprizes. :)


15 posted on 03/18/2005 7:01:31 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Tolik

Thanks for the ping. We have finally elected a truly great President. This is a man that would walk the gauntlet to help quell the evil of this world.

What a contrast with our prior 'president', that made decisions by the latest MSM poles.


16 posted on 03/18/2005 7:19:54 AM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: wizr

poles = polls....duh. Need more coffee.


17 posted on 03/18/2005 7:21:33 AM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thank you


18 posted on 03/18/2005 7:36:28 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Let's Roll

I have no idea whether VDH was at one time a liberal or not. The following comment is not directed at VDH.

Dims/Libs are like puppies. They're born into this world with their eyes shut, they whine and whimper to get their needs met. But, when they finally open up their eyes to the world they become conservative and meet those needs on their own.

VDH essays should be required reading at all institutes of higher learning.


19 posted on 03/18/2005 7:49:26 AM PST by Hornet19 (Know what happens to a Democrat that takes Viagra? He just gets a little taller.)
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To: Tolik

Thanks for posting.

Hanson is so superior to anyone published by the MSM that it is laughable.


20 posted on 03/18/2005 7:53:17 AM PST by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: mal

I haven't read a whole lot of VDH, but I try to. This may be his best yet. It sums up whats wrong with Liberalism today. His conclusion about the depressing times we live in today also rings with my heart. I am dismayed at what has happened to the opposition. I thought it was bad during Reagans term, but this is worse. I thank GOD that its OUR side which owns most of the guns...


21 posted on 03/18/2005 7:59:44 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: mal
.......

"he simply fell under the influence of Moveon.org and thought it was his duty to remove the Bush/Nazi threat that even U.S. senators and presidential candidates had identified and warned about."

22 posted on 03/18/2005 8:07:47 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: CaptRon
Ignorance and arrogance are a lethal combination.

So is....

KNOWLEDGE and arrogance are a lethal combination.

23 posted on 03/18/2005 8:18:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: SJackson; dennisw; Alouette

Did anyone catch the "Little Eichmanns" references on this week's South Park episode? :)


24 posted on 03/18/2005 9:36:29 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: mal

Brownshirts were all homosexuals. The hitler youth were the feeding ground for the homosexuals. The Nazi's wanted to destroy society and remake "god" in the Nazi image.

Seems to me the only group doing that today is the leftists with their feminist moralphobia and their efforts to impose homosexual marriage and lower the age of consent.


25 posted on 03/18/2005 11:24:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

The whole brownshirt saga...is one that most historians end up painting in black and white. They would prefer to tell the entire brownshirt story in 10 lines, and simply talk about what they did against Jews. What most people miss...is that brownshirts were primarily guys who fit into two categories...either the dienchanted war types who whined about losing...or the gay members who started the entire corp of brownshirts out in Munich. These ruff and ready types...were simply out to do whatever muscle was required and they never worried about the local authorities...because most were connected in some fashion to the brownshirts.


26 posted on 03/18/2005 11:41:13 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: mal
One explanation is simply the ignorance of the icons of our popular culture. A Linda Ronstadt, Garrison Keillor, or Harold Pinter knows nothing much of the encompassing evil of Hitler’s regime

I think this is honestly most of the issue. To the leftist mind set, Hitler = evil and powerful, Bush = evil and powerful, so therefore Bush = Hitler.
27 posted on 03/18/2005 2:05:58 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: mal

Resorting to a Hitler analogy to prove a point is more often than not a sure sign that you've lost the debate.


28 posted on 03/18/2005 2:33:19 PM PST by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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29 posted on 03/19/2005 5:16:27 AM PST by firewalk
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To: swilhelm73

Right!


30 posted on 03/19/2005 5:20:06 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: mal

Wow, when VDH says something, there is just not much more to add.

That said, we must never forget that Hitler was a NATIONAL SOCIALIST. His policies need to be looked at and compared to the DNC/Green platforms. Like the Communist Party USA platform vs the Democrats, the comparisons are disturbingly similar. No wonder Kerry got the support from the World Workers Party and the CPUSA....

Modern leftists and socialists in the world need to be very carefull when calling 'right wingers' (ie, anyone right of Castro, Chavez, or Marx) NAZIs. Like the elitist "journalists", they will find thier beliefs and policies under scrutiny. I know that when the Left's postitions are laid out, it becomes no question who the real National Socialists are....

For the DUers: Hint, it's not Bush or the conservatives... Your glass house is cracking


31 posted on 03/19/2005 5:14:19 PM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: swilhelm73
I think this is honestly most of the issue. To the leftist mind set, Hitler = evil and powerful, Bush = evil and powerful, so therefore Bush = Hitler.

So, where does that put Soros and Kerry? Both powerfull, and both out to destroy freedom. Or Saddam, the Iranian Mullahs, Kim the Ill.....

32 posted on 03/19/2005 5:16:11 PM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: M1Tanker

Within the leftist mind Soros, a virtually stereotypical "evil" capitalist, and Kerry, a self admitted war criminal, are not evil because they oppose conservatism - this is no different mind you then the left's love for sexual harrasser, and possible rapist, Bill Clinton...


33 posted on 03/19/2005 7:28:41 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: swilhelm73

Ohh the joy of 'situational ethics'...

Just the same as the question: "Where are all the human rights groups to help us support Terri?" or "Where was NOW when all these women that Clinton assaulted came forward?" or many other questions...

Of course, groups like Move-On, the DNC, ELF/ALF, PETA, Not in Our Name, etc all have the same ANSWER (pun intended): Follow the money. These groups, full of brainwashed (often violent) robots, would never bite the hand that feeds them.


34 posted on 03/20/2005 4:44:39 AM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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