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Michael Schiavo: A refusal to quit in the face of threats, anguish and vitriol.
The Inquirer ^ | Mar. 20, 2005 | Sandy Bauers

Posted on 03/20/2005 6:06:29 PM PST by Former Military Chick

He's been vilified on Web sites and talk shows. He's been called a wife-abuser, an adulterer, a money-grubbing murderer.

Death threats have been left in his mailbox.

Throngs of protesters have waved signs and chanted outside his house in Clearwater, Fla., and they have gathered again.

Sometimes, even Michael Schiavo's friends have wondered why, in the face of all that, he didn't just walk away.

It would have been easier for him to relinquish guardianship of his severely incapacitated wife, Terri, to her parents.

So why not give it up, leave Terri's feeding tube in, let her parents care for her? After all, he is living with another woman now and they have two children.

"Because he's sticking by what he promised," Scott Schiavo, Michael's brother, said in a recent interview. "He wants to honor the last thing he can give to her."

Physicians have testified that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state and will never improve. Michael Schiavo has said his wife told him she would not want to live like this.

Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, formerly of Huntingdon Valley, say she is responsive and can be helped. They say that, as a Catholic, she would choose life at all costs.

On Friday, Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, which has been in place for all but two brief stretches of time since she collapsed in 1990, was removed. It could be brief this time as well. The House is expected today to consider a Senate bill that would allow Schiavo's parents to take their case to federal court.

Throughout the protracted legal battle, the Schindlers have made their religious views, their personal anguish, and their mistrust of Michael Schiavo a public cause.

Intensely private, according to his family and friends, Michael Schiavo has rarely spoken publicly about the matter, out of respect for his wife's privacy. Through his brother, he declined to be interviewed for this story.

However, in recent days he has gone on national TV to reiterate that Terri would not have wanted to live like this and criticize politicians for getting involved in a deeply personal matter.

His brother and friends also have decided that it's time to speak up. The mudslinging, they said, has become too ugly, too nasty.

"I have a friend who I think has been maligned," said Russ Hyden of Gainesville, Fla.

"We're tired of it. We're done. It's time people know who he is," said Scott Schiavo, who lives in Levittown near where the brothers were raised.

The thing is, even if Michael Schiavo wins the final court battle, and Terri Schiavo's feeding tube is removed, he really hasn't won at all, Scott said.

"He's already lost," he said. "He's already lost Terri."

Social with friends, but reclusive

His brother and friends describe Michael Schiavo as social within his circle of friends, but otherwise almost reclusive. Except for the No Trespassing sign on his front lawn and the armed guards he's occasionally hired to protect his home, he's tried to grasp whatever shreds of normalcy he can.

His friends don't see the demon that protesters who have hurled insults at him do.

Wilma Mackay, a 65-year-old retiree from Palm Harbor, Fla., who watched her husband and brother die of cancer, sees a man who is "the epitome of loyalty."

Bonnie Rowley of Largo, Fla., a friend for about a decade, sees someone who "stands strong on what he believes in, and that is Terri Schiavo. If I needed a health-care advocate, he'd be my first choice. I know he'd be there till the end, and he'd give it one hell of a fight."

Michael Schiavo, 41, was the youngest of five boys. Six-foot-seven, athletic and model-handsome, he met Terri Schindler at Bucks County Community College in 1982.

She had graduated from Archbishop Wood High School in Warminster, he from Woodrow Wilson High School in Bristol Township.

Married two years later, they moved to Florida, where, early on the morning of Feb. 25, 1990, Michael Schiavo has testified, he awoke to the sound of a thud and found Terri on the floor in the hallway, unconscious.

They had been married a little over five years.

He has spent three times as long - the last 15 years - first trying to bring her back, then trying to let her go, his friends and brother say.

In the beginning, they say, Schiavo was relentless in his search for his wife's cure. She underwent various therapies.

He rented a house large enough for him and Terri's parents, who had moved to the area.

He made sure she was dressed every day. He applied her makeup and dabbed on perfume, Rowley said.

He went to school to become a nurse, "because he wanted to take care of Terri," Scott said. "He swore that he could get Terri better... . One doctor said: 'Mike, you know what? There's nothing else we can do. The next time Terri gets sick, why don't you just let nature take its course?' And Mike wouldn't do it."

Death and defining moments

Many of the defining moments of Michael Schiavo's life have revolved around death.

In 1988, his grandmother was hospitalized with a serious illness. She had signed a "do not resuscitate" order, Scott Schiavo said, but when she worsened in the middle of the night, no one looked at her records.

"It took them I don't know how long to get her breathing again. They stuck a ventilator down her throat." To little avail. "She was brain-dead," Scott Schiavo recalled.

All the family could do was wait until medications that kept her heart beating wore off. It took a day and a half, he said.

After the funeral, the family went to the Buck Hotel in Feasterville. Scott and Terri were sitting next to each other at a large table, where the conversation turned to how upset their grandmother would have been at her final hours.

Terri turned to him, Scott Schiavo said, "and she said, 'Not me, no way, I don't want that.' She says, 'If I'm ever like that, oh, don't let me. Pull that tube out of me.' " Scott Schiavo said he testified about the incident in 2000.

Several years after Terri collapsed, Michael Schiavo's mother was diagnosed with cancer.

Eventually, medical complications required the removal of her feeding tube, Scott said. "It's not like we said: 'Turn it off.' "

She was kept "peaceful and out of pain" until she died, Scott said.

Then their father died.

Eventually, Scott said, his brother realized he would have to let Terri go, too.

The Schindlers - who did not respond to a request for an interview made through their lawyer - have been distrustful of his motives partly because, they have said, no one mentioned Terri's wishes until years after her collapse.

But, Scott said, "it's not something you think about while Mike's trying to save her life... . It's something that people do when there's nothing left to do."

This particular fight has not come without a price.

"I give Mike all the credit in the world, because I would have snapped already. I know how bad it hurts me when I hear people talking about him and downing him," Scott Schiavo said.

Most of all, Scott said, "the thing that tears him up is he worries at nighttime, if he's working. He's afraid for the kids and Jodi."

Love and moral dilemmas

Michael Schiavo met his girlfriend, identified in court records as Jodi Centonze, about a decade ago.

Initially, Rowley, who was Centonze's friend, didn't know what to think. The court battles had not yet heated up, but she knew the situation with Terri.

When Rowley met Michael Schiavo, what she noticed first was his "great smile, a gentle smile."

Gradually, her respect grew. "He could have stepped off and divorced Terri five years ago, when this really hit the court. And got married and started his family that way," Rowley said.

The couple has two toddlers - a daughter and a son. Michael Schiavo works in the medical unit of the Pinellas County Jail.

Both Centonze and Michael Schiavo had to face "their own moral dilemmas as far as having children out of wedlock," Rowley said. "But the two of them weren't getting any younger... So does that make him a bad person because he did that? Did he fluff his responsibility to Terri at any point? No."

It is Centonze, Scott Schiavo said, who now does all Terri's laundry. "She's been unbelievable. She supported Mike in everything he did... . She's gone with Mike to visit Terri. She's helped Mike clean Terri up."

Centonze has been a flashpoint for Michael Schiavo's critics who think it is a reason to disqualify him to be Terri's guardian. His living with Centonze "abrogates the covenant of marriage," said Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy Council, who was among the demonstrators outside the hospice on Friday.

Looking back on it now, Scott thinks his brother "just wanted somebody to love him." He equates it with a widower who remarries, "but it doesn't mean that that person stopped loving their spouse that passed on. Mike was very lonely. I mean, he was a 26-year-old kid" when Terri collapsed.

"It's hard to imagine the circumstances he lived under," friend Russ Hyden said. "There was no closure, yet there was no companionship either. That's the worst possible scenario."

Hyden had met Schiavo in 1991. Hyden's pregnant wife had been diagnosed with cancer. A mutual friend thought they "might have something in common. And we did."

But it was more than that they were both going through "life-changing ordeals," Hyden said. "We both liked to play a little golf. We enjoyed each other's company."

Hyden scoffs at the accusations about Schiavo taking the malpractice money awarded to Terri. "If there was so much money, where was that money when I first met Mike? Why wasn't he driving a big car and living in a big home? He was driving a Jeep and living in an apartment."

Hyden's wife lived for almost three more years. He and Schiavo spoke or saw each other several times a week.

"He was always great with my kids," Hyden said. Hyden's daughter was 2, his son 7, and Michael brought them gifts.

"He spent a great deal of time helping me put my family back together," Hyden said. "Perhaps it was because his had fallen so tragically apart."

Sympathy for Terri's parents

In a way, Michael Schiavo has said he can sympathize with Terri's parents. "I have children, and, you know, I couldn't even fathom what it would be like to lose a child," he said in an interview on Nightline last week.

But, he continued, "they know the condition Terri is in. They were there in the beginning. They heard the doctors. They know that Terri's in a persistent vegetative state. They testified to that at the original trial. Fifteen years - you've got to come to grips with it sometime."

He said Terri would "always be a part of my life.

"And to sit here and be called a murderer and an adulterer by people that don't know me, and a governor stepping into my personal, private life, who doesn't know me either? And using his personal gain to win votes, just like the legislators are doing right now, pandering to the religious right, to the people up there, the antiabortion people, standing outside of Tallahassee?

"What kind of government is this? This is a human being. This is not right."

In a way, Michael Schiavo's world still revolves around Terri. He calls every day and visits several times a week, Scott Schiavo said. He can still talk to her, even if she doesn't talk back.

Michael Schiavo yesterday told CNN that he had a "sense of relief" now that the feeding tube had been removed and he promised to "stay by her side" till the end.

"This is her time...," he said. "I will love her and I will hold her hand."

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Contact staff writer Sandy Bauers at 610-701-7635 or sbauers@phillynews.com.

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Congress tries again to stop Schiavo death

Timeline of the Terri Schiavo Case

Recent court rulings and other materials related to the Terri Schiavo case:

5 Wishes a Site that helps one prepare if one is unable to speak for themselves.

Partnership for Caring

Statutory Form of Declaration

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To: moneypenny

I believe in looking at both sides; and I don't think they're found on FR in any way, shape, or form.

As soon as any article that doesn't condmen him to hell is posted, people start trashing him and there is effectivly NO DISCUSSION.

If you dare to ask a question, you're called a murderer, or told to go back to DU (Yes, a million people have called me a troll and told me to get over to DU).

And if you are interested in the legal proceedings and ask questions about it, someone will come along and jump you and call you a euthansia lover.

I remember when conservatives use to be for the rule of law; I remember when conservatives use to be for the sanctity of marriage; I remember when conservatives use to be opposed to activist judges.

And I remember when people on FR could voice their opinions without being repeatedly drummed off threads; my Freepmail box is FULL of pages and pages of emails from people who are AFRAID to post on these threads to voice their opinions because of the vicousness of the attacks, just like I was on this very thread.

I am of the opinion that this is a BAD bill, if it gets past the USSC; it opens the door to anybody that you know butting into your life.

And I remember when conservatives thought the government should get out of our lives.


281 posted on 03/20/2005 8:44:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: GatorGirl

You'll have to forgive me for not answering your questions; I don't put much value in your posts or your opinions, you know, since you lied about me in your first post.


282 posted on 03/20/2005 8:46:59 PM PST by Howlin
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To: gardencatz

"Someone on a different thread pointed out this link: http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html and I'm glad they did because it's the most unbiased look at the case I've seen"

You've GOT to be kidding me.

I have to say that in spite of the guy's protests at being uninterested and unbiased, that's one of the -most- biased representations of this case I've ever seen.

Look at his timeline! How in God's name does he jump from January 1993 to May, 1998, with only one entry (transferrence to a nursing home) in between? How the hell can he leave out THIS and purport to be objective!?

1993

Feb - Michael Schiavo denies recommended rehabilitation treatment.

Feb - Schiavo and Terri's parents have falling out regarding lack of therapy for Terri.

Feb - Schiavo withholds medical information from Terri's parents.

Feb - Schiavo posts Do not Resuscitate order in Terri's medical chart.

Jun - Schiavo threatens Schindler family with lawsuit.

Aug - Schiavo orders medical staff not to treat Terri for potentially fatal infection.

Sep - Bob and Mary Schindler petition courts to remove Schiavo as Terri's guardian.

Nov - Schiavo admits in deposition that he knew withholding treatment of infection could result in Terri's death.


I'm sorry, it's absurd to leave facts like that out of the equation, especially given that they immediately follow his being awarded large sums of cash which he promised to and was bound to use for her rehabilitation. Please, tell me that you can see that a claim to being objective is ludicrous in light of leaving facts like that out by casually skipping over five years of the timeline which just happens to be the most damaging to Schiavo's case!

Qwinn


283 posted on 03/20/2005 8:48:53 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Everyone tonight has been quoting the 10th amendment which reads....."The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

In depriving Terri or food and water, she is condemned to die. Condemned murderers, like Scott Peterson, will have their death sentence reviewed in the courts. This bill provides that Terri also have her death sentence reviewed.

The 14th Amendment applies here:"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; now deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

284 posted on 03/20/2005 8:49:05 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: hineybona

First he stopped her treatments, when she was having them she was responding, but he told the hospice/nurses she was not to have any more therapy of any kind. So what does how long has she been this way have to do with it. He is the one that stopped it. The question is WHY???
But some doctors seem to think that she still has a chance. I believe that miracles are out there, just be patient. If she has fought this long over having her feeding tube removed a couple times now, then I think she should be given the chance. That's all. She is a living, breathing human being. She doesn't need a machine to help her breath, she does that on her own. Why all of a sudden if you are incapacitated you don't deserve to live??


285 posted on 03/20/2005 8:50:06 PM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN you are UNAmerican)
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To: virgil
"I think, as myself being a guardian of a severly handicapped person, there is something fishy about this whole business. We need to get to the truth before putting someone to death. I watch with interest."

I was in your position as well, and can smell STINK, like you can, a mile away. BIG STINK. Let's get to the TRUTH before KILLING a woman who is not even on life support.

WHY would that be so unreasonable to ANYONE who values life? What's the damn rush? Where's the damn FIRE?

286 posted on 03/20/2005 8:51:25 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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To: Former Military Chick

For those that support the husband's postion in some form -- have you ever hiked in the desert in the summer? A couple of hours without water in 115 degree heat will give you an indication of what if feels like to begin the road to dehydration. Then, please keep going without fluids and the extreme temperature, experience what it feels like to deprive the body of fluids.

I don't care about legal positions, government positions, husband's positions, we're Americans and I thought we were to care for each other. You would not put an animal to death this way, you would not put a murderer to death this way, you would not put a terrorist to death this way. So let's get to the bottom line and all agree -- YOU CANNOT PUT TERRI TO DEATH THIS WAY!!!


287 posted on 03/20/2005 8:51:52 PM PST by DandG13
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To: Former Military Chick

What a sack of crap.


288 posted on 03/20/2005 8:52:46 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: moneypenny

in terms of time ,at what point did he stop her treatments.?Im simply asking a question here.


289 posted on 03/20/2005 8:53:31 PM PST by hineybona
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To: Mo1
Howlin's concerns are about Congress over stepping their bounds

Ah yes. The judiciary should always have the final say on U.S. policy..right? Once any judge decides anything...no matter how ludicrous, the legislative branch simply has no power to to put their 2 cents in the political forum....Wrong.

Here are a few thoughts from mark levin on this issue:

Some other posts today from Levin below that on the subject of Legislative vs. Judicial powers.

HERE WE ARE [K. J. Lopez] Cover for the feminist Left for not being a defender of the rights of Terri Schiavo: (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0503190165mar19,1,6639786.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true)

Marc Spindelman, a visiting professor of law at Georgetown University who specializes in bioethics, said the message sent by the subpoenas is chilling.

"What's next? If Congress doesn't like it, are they going to subpoena individual women to testify before Congress in order to keep them from exercising their rights to an abortion?" he said. "What about individuals who want to terminate a respirator? Is Congress going to bring them in and start asking them questions? Who couldn't be dissuaded from exercising their constitutional rights in certain ways in the face of a federal subpoena? The spectacle of this--it's unbelievable."

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RE: RE: HERE WE ARE [Mark R. Levin] This is a typical slippery slope argument, applied only to Congress but not to the judiciary. I could ask, for instance: what next, will judges, on the word of a putative spouse, deny nutrition to alzheimer patients who, on their own, would surely die of starvation? And what of the standard of proof and evidence? There's nothing in writing here, no living will, no witnesses -- just heresay. Is that the standard judges will now use, and if they can use this standard on a matter of life and death, what about wills, trust, estates? Are they all to be decided now based on oral, unwitnessed representations?

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AND WHAT'S TO STOP CONGRESS FROM... [Mark R. Levin] And what's to stop Congress from calling women who might seek abortions? Well, what's to stop Congress from doing anything stupid or outrageous? We, the people. Even those who oppose abortion would likely react very negatively to such a spectacle. Congress has called witnessed who've had abortions who regret having had the procedure and others who've argued against prohibiting, for instance, partial birth abortion. This has been done without exploitation or abuse. But the question the critics of the House refuse to ask and answer is who or what can check a judiciary that, more and more, is making policy decisions? If not Congress, than no one. And in many cases, I expect that's perfectly fine by them.

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IT’S THE JUDGES, STUPID [Mark R. Levin] I see this more as a struggle between the elected branches and the judiciary. The Florida legislature and Governor Jeb Bush did, in fact, attempt to intervene in the Schiavo case a few years back, and prevent the removal of her feeding tube. But the Florida Supreme Court ruled, among other things, that the governor had no such power. Yesterday, Florida Superior Court Judge Greer, in essence, said the same about congressional authority. He quickly dismissed the relevance of the House subpoenas with this statement: "I have had no cogent reason why the committee should intervene." The state judge, therefore, contended that the House had to convince him of the legitimacy of its subpoena to compel witnesses to appear so it can conduct hearings. I've heard nothing from academia about this stunning judicial assertion.

As the courts continue to usurp the policy- and law-making power of the elected branches, and offend an ever-growing number of Americans and their representatives, we can expect the tension between the elected branches and the judiciary to grow. The judges have no one to blame but themselves. In the eyes of many, they have pursued a course that delegitimizes their institution and calls into question their motives. And while the courts set themselves up as the final arbiters of all conflicts between themselves and the other branches, at least the House, in this first test of constitutional wills, does not appear ready to surrender. After all, if it won't protect its own constitutional prerogatives, who will?

The more the House resists judicial usurpation, the more unhinged its critics in academia and the mainstream media will become -- accusing it of politicizing the independent judiciary, intimidating judges, and so forth. The reason for this is straightforward: the judiciary is the means by which the Left has been most successful in recent decades in imposing its agenda on society. They've gone to extraordinary lengths to obstruct President Bush's judicial nominations, including the unconstitutional use of filibusters in the Senate, and they will be equally zealous in the House.

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A ROLE FOR CONGRESS [Mark R. Levin] No one questions the power of Congress to issue subpoenas to pursue its core function, i.e., to conduct hearings and investigate issues where there might be a legislative purpose. And clearly, in this case, Congress is genuinely interested in taking up the issue of protecting disabled and incapacitated people. And Congress is certainly free to use the most widely known example of court-ordered starvation as a basis for its inquiry. If its purpose is also to save from starvation the person at the center of its inquiry, that's perfectly legitimate as well.

And when Congress issues subpoenas, they are to be honored by the recipients, or they face possible prosecution for contempt of Congress. Compliance with congressional subpoenas is every bit as critical to maintaining the rule of law under our constitutional system as is compliance with a court order. And a state trial judge is not free to blithely dismiss such congressional action, whether he agrees with it or not. He stands in the same shoes as others in this regard, i.e., he cannot take affirmative steps to contravene a congressional subpoena. Even if one wishes to descend into some kind of balancing test, the state trial judge could have easily prevented a constitutional confrontation by delaying his order until Congress could at least conduct hearings, thereby ensuring that the authority of both branches of government were not offended. Instead, the state trial judge did what too many judges do, i.e., he vetoed a decision or action by Congress. The mainstream media will ignore this aspect of what has occurred, as it already has, preferring to regurgitate the shrill accusations of academics and lawyers who worship before the bench. Posted at 10:53 AM

290 posted on 03/20/2005 8:53:48 PM PST by paltz
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To: Howlin

Yeah, I believe men who start dating 1.5 years after their gf has an accident.

Yeah, I believe men who get rich off the pain of others.

Yeah, I believe men who deny visitation rights for loved ones and micromanage every aspect of Terri's care.

/sarcasm


291 posted on 03/20/2005 8:54:17 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Howlin

I have yet to encounter ONE rational argument in favor of starving this woman. Not from Felos, not from Michael Schiavo, not from Neil Boortz, not from anyone on Free Republic.

Excuse me for making the mistake of thinking you might be able to give me a rational response in relation to the principles at work here.

I guess I gave you too much credit.


292 posted on 03/20/2005 8:54:50 PM PST by GatorGirl
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To: MikeinIraq

Death threats are certainly beyond the bounds, but harrassing calls aren't.

If he doesn't want the calls, perhaps he should get his number unlisted...


293 posted on 03/20/2005 8:55:13 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: GatorGirl

Are you too thick to understand the words "I don't want to?"


294 posted on 03/20/2005 8:55:42 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Crazieman

He started dating a year after her accident.


295 posted on 03/20/2005 8:55:45 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

Geez, lighten up.


296 posted on 03/20/2005 8:56:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: LittleBoPeep

That is some money he has made sure is off limits to try to make himself look better.

But, who knows what he has done with the settlement. It sure looks like he spent it on his nice big mansion.

He sure didn't get it from a nurse's salary.


297 posted on 03/20/2005 8:56:53 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: All
Scott Peterson: "why didn't I think of that?"
298 posted on 03/20/2005 8:57:34 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Howlin

Howlin,

I don't think any of those things about you, never have and never will. You are right you have a right to your opinion and you shouldn't take others thought to heart. The people on FR are just very passionate and maybe a little over zealous, but they mean well. We are starting to act like the librals and "eat our own". LOL
I don't ever want you to leave FR because you are very intelligent with many of you views.

I too am very passionate about these circumstances. But I've been following Terri over the years. She just seems like she should be given the chance thats all.


299 posted on 03/20/2005 8:58:52 PM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN you are UNAmerican)
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To: Howlin
I am trying to figure out when we no longer debated and instead tossed mud (insults) at one another.

There is no doubt that everyone and I mean EVERYONE has a thought on the subject.

Frankly and I might be wrong, but those who feel that congress should not have become involved are not siding with Terri's husband but for the act in itself of putting this case back to zero ignoring all past court decisions. I also think that if in fact Terri's folks prevail, that those who are on the opposite side will be gracious in that decision. I only wonder if they will be as kind to you, should the feds not agree with parents or worse choose not to take on the case.

I really do appreciate everyone's point of view. It is sometimes difficult to stand alone in your position.

All involved are in my prayers.

300 posted on 03/20/2005 8:58:55 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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