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Michael Schiavo: A refusal to quit in the face of threats, anguish and vitriol.
The Inquirer ^ | Mar. 20, 2005 | Sandy Bauers

Posted on 03/20/2005 6:06:29 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: PFKEY
Apperently the hospital saw no evidence of foul play.

Yes. That's why the radiologist made a statement like "Somebody beat her up pretty bad."

There was no police involvement, and the radiologist had no way to know the circumstances of her being there. All he did was take and inspect the xrays.

441 posted on 03/20/2005 11:50:20 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
My quote
Don't foget the fact that he never once mentioned her supposed desire to "die rather than live like that" until AFTER the $1 million malpractice settlement.

The Schindlers - who did not respond to a request for an interview made through their lawyer - have been distrustful of his motives partly because, they have said, no one mentioned Terri's wishes until years after her collapse. But, Scott said, "it's not something you think about while Mike's trying to save her life... . It's something that people do when there's nothing left to do."

Your quote
It's because of his treatment of her. Contrary to his claims of how well he treated her, the preponderance of evidence indicates he despised her, and wanted her dead quite soon after he got the lawsuit settlement.

Those witnesses, volunteered to give their affidavits, and they have absolutely nothing to gain.

Michael has money, remarrying, no time out to have to deal with Terri, or the Lawyer, or the media.

He has contradicted himself, and tried to blame everyone else for 'his problems'.

He keeps her room dark and cold, has had personal effects removed.

He doesn't want her given water by mouth as she may choke to death.

At least it would me more merciful than dehydrating and starving her to death over a likely two week period.

In Michaels defence and please believe me when I say I not all too comfortable taking his side but only because if he is so devoted and desirous that her wishes be carried out than he should not be unfaithful to her.

But the article says that early on he did provide very good care and theorapy. It was not until he was convinced that she was never going to recover and that she was PVS that her began to whithold care. Now if she is truely PVS then it's not like whe knows or cares so maybe in his eyes he is doing her no harm.

Now did this just coincidently happen at the same time Terri was awarded the $1 million? I don't know but if so it doesn't look good.

I still wish he would have divorced her even if he is telling the truth that he is only trying to do what Terri requested by not letting her live in a condition like this his getting a mistress kinda says to me that he's not really all too concerned about her wishes.

Then again maybe she would want him to move on with his life.

Who really knows?

442 posted on 03/20/2005 11:53:55 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: UCANSEE2

Larry King: Michael, what is the motivation of Terri's parents to fight to keep her alive?

Scumball: I guess to make my life hell.

Larry King: Michael, would you take a polygraph?

Scumball: I better refrain from
answering that.

I've seen you. I know you now. I smell the evil. Before this ends they'll be justice for Terri.


443 posted on 03/20/2005 11:56:10 PM PST by at bay
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To: UCANSEE2
Yes. That's why the radiologist made a statement like "Somebody beat her up pretty bad."

There was no police involvement, and the radiologist had no way to know the circumstances of her being there. All he did was take and inspect the xrays.

This is not how it works in a hospital.

If foul play is suspected the hospital/doctors have to report this to the police.

Why didn't that happen?

It's not the radiologist job to do that.

Is the hospital part of this larger consiparcy too?

444 posted on 03/20/2005 11:56:40 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: stylin_geek

Why do I get a bad vibe when I see the nick "Howlin". Is he/she the resident troll here or something? One of Wlat's buddies perhaps?


445 posted on 03/21/2005 12:00:58 AM PST by Stakka Skynet ("Actors are cattle." -Alfred Hitchcock)
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To: UCANSEE2

This is my running list of conspirators...

I was commenting Friday how this has to be the biggest conspiracy of all time.

The hospital/doctors who treated her after her collapse. kill her.
Micheal.
Felos.
Greer.
The doctors who diagnosed her a PVS.
The Gardian ad litem who agreed with the PVS diagnosis.
The pinellas County Sheriff.
Hospice.
MSM.

The hospital/doctors who treated her after her collapse for not reporting her obvious compression fractures which is obvious proof that Michael tried to kill her.

It has been said that Greer and Felos have a financial stake in the hospice which makes no sense that they would want Terri dead because it is to their advantage to fill beds not empty them.

The Gardian ad litem is anti Terri's Law so he lied.

Hospice migh have drugged her before the Gardian ad litem came so she couldn't respond.

The MSM repeats the lies that she is PVS because they are part of the culture of death.

The doctors who diagnosed her as PVS because they are part of the culture of death.

Felos because he is pro euthenasia.

It would also be to Felo's advantage to keep Terri alive until he milked all the settlement money.

The Pinellas County Sheriff who refused to investigate the attempted murder allegations Terri's parents brought forward after learing some years later of the compreshion fractures because he is a friend/campain contributor to Greer.

I'm sure I've forgotten someone but you get my point.

The majority opinion expressed here is so far fetched that it is completely unbelievable.

Why people just can't make the simple argument that Terri should not be killed because it is morally and ethically wrong and leave it at that I do not understand.

Instead they insist on building these wild conspiracy therories which discredits them is just plain stupid.

I know there are a great deal of emotions over this case but you and many others are doing yourself and ultimatly Terri a disservice and libelling many in their wake.

This case has made FreeRepublic look as kooky as our friends at DU.


446 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:56 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: Alouette

ABSOLUTE BS, you are so right. And whatever else he may or may not be he is ABSOLUTELY an adulterer.

He should have obtained a divorce. I sincerely doubt that Judge Greer, as GAL would have denied it to him.

Talk about your barf alerts!

He's a holy, sainted man Micheal Schiavo is. He's suffered like no other, loved like no other. He's a fine, fine fellow. He lives just to bury his family. That heathen woman, she's letting him down.

Ack, the guy is a nurse! Don't let this sleazo near my sick bed, that's all I can say.


447 posted on 03/21/2005 12:16:22 AM PST by jocon307
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To: UCANSEE2

Update
Addeed abusive guardian

This is my running list of conspirators...

I was commenting Friday how this has to be the biggest conspiracy of all time.

The hospital/doctors who treated her after her collapse. kill her.
Micheal.
Felos.
Greer.
The doctors who diagnosed her a PVS.
The Gardian ad litem who agreed with the PVS diagnosis.
The pinellas County Sheriff.
Hospice.
MSM.
The abusive guardian.


The hospital/doctors who treated her after her collapse for not reporting her obvious compression fractures which is obvious proof that Michael tried to kill her.

It has been said that Greer and Felos have a financial stake in the hospice which makes no sense that they would want Terri dead because it is to their advantage to fill beds not empty them.

The Gardian ad litem is anti Terri's Law so he lied.

Hospice migh have drugged her before the Gardian ad litem came so she couldn't respond.

The MSM repeats the lies that she is PVS because they are part of the culture of death.

The doctors who diagnosed her as PVS because they are part of the culture of death.

Felos because he is pro euthenasia.

It would also be to Felo's advantage to keep Terri alive until he milked all the settlement money.

The Pinellas County Sheriff who refused to investigate the attempted murder allegations Terri's parents brought forward after learing some years later of the compreshion fractures because he is a friend/campain contributor to Greer.

The abusive gaudrian who would fly into a rage if he discovered anyone was trying to give Terri speach therapy and who would change Terri's patient charts to please Michael.

I'm sure I've forgotten someone but you get my point.

The majority opinion expressed here is so far fetched that it is completely unbelievable.

Why people just can't make the simple argument that Terri should not be killed because it is morally and ethically wrong and leave it at that I do not understand.

Instead they insist on building these wild conspiracy therories which discredits them is just plain stupid.

I know there are a great deal of emotions over this case but you and many others are doing yourself and ultimatly Terri a disservice and libelling many in their wake.

This case has made FreeRepublic look as kooky as our friends at DU.


448 posted on 03/21/2005 12:16:58 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: at bay

"I guess to make my life hell."

Oh my GOD! Did he really say that on Larry King? I can't beleive I never heard this quote before.

That's it, if this is true any lingering, niggling doubt I might have had about this man's sincerity is removed. He is nothing but an inept and cowardly murderer, who couldn't get the job done himself, and now wants "the system" to finish the job. What a truly evil man.


449 posted on 03/21/2005 12:37:12 AM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I quoted right off the Larry King rebroadcast that just finished airing. From 11-02 originally, I think.


450 posted on 03/21/2005 1:23:08 AM PST by at bay
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To: PFKEY

...This case has made FreeRepublic look as kooky as our friends at DU.

.....
Well - guess we are just kooky.

Guess it is kooky to care that a 40 year old lady is being killed by a husband right in front of our eyes with state support. Dang - how dumb and ignorant can we be.

Guess it is kooky to speak up when we see a new defining line as to when life is ended. WHO IS DECIDING ALL OF THESE REASONS TO KILL OFF OUR WEAK? (Pure kookiness)

But - you see - I get highly irate when I see people mistreating the weak, changing the death criteria in America, when I see judges that are not impartial ruling a case for years and not appearing to provide any respect or rights to the parents and Terri.

I also get really scared when I see how many Freepers see nothing wrong with killing others when THEY DECIDE THAT PERSON WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN STANDARDS. I depend on these freepers and I am very afraid of what will happen to our country with the death culture making such great strides on all fronts.

Kooky, kooky, kooky.




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451 posted on 03/21/2005 1:50:50 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: PFKEY
>> I call 911 and say my wife has collapesed and is unconscious. She is taken to the hospital and examined.<<

Michael did not call 911. At some point he called the Schindlers. Terri's brother came to the apartment and found Terri on the floor, inert and unresponsive. It was he who called for emergency aid. Bobby said that Michael was sitting in another room as if in a daze.

She was taken to an ER where a desperate effort was made to revive her. It's not like they gave her a physical.

>> She is in a coma. <<

She was for all practical purposes dead. She was not breathing at all and not responsive.

>> The doctors find these compression fractures and conclude that her condition is a result or likely result of these injuries.<<

The ER doctors knew nothing of this. The bone scan was taken a year later.

Interestingly, Michael's lawyers later concealed the incriminating bone scan from the Schindlers, for years, along with Terri's other medical records. It was only revealed by accident. Whether the court knew about it is disputed. But if it did know and didn't pursue an investigation for criminal assault on Terri, it was grossly negligent. That would be one more -- fatal -- error in Judge Greer's biased handling of the case.

Keep in mind there was only one possible suspect in this assault -- Michael.

I asked two FR physicians to examine the scan and both affirmed that Terri had suffered major traumas. Her injuries were far worse than anything she could have suffered by "collapsing." The injuries are consistent with a beating or the stress of fighting desperately to breathe while she was being smothered.

Michael is a big man, twice Terri's size. The injuries sharply suggest that he got on her back, pinning her down with one knee on her back and one on her leg (bones fractured in both spots) and smothered her.

452 posted on 03/21/2005 1:56:58 AM PST by T'wit (Retire to Florida! Bring your estate. No feeding tube needed. The crematorium is warm and ready!)
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To: PFKEY

Another point. If Michael did win the malpractice suit for "whatever" and, in actuality, he caused the damage to her through something and failed to provide CPR, would he be required to repay those funds should his guilt be discovered?

We've all wondered why such a strong interest in her death and logically it is because of Michael rather than because of Terri since he is a control freak.

How come he is surrounded on all sides by euthanasia proponents - the hospice, his lawyer, the owner of the hospice and major euthanasia promoter and Judge Greer?


453 posted on 03/21/2005 1:57:20 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: ClancyJ
Kooky, kooky, kookyWhat is kooky is all the conspiracy theories.

It is not kooky to want to defend life.

Sigh...

454 posted on 03/21/2005 2:01:31 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: T'wit
I asked two FR physicians to examine the scan and both affirmed that Terri had suffered major traumas. Her injuries were far worse than anything she could have suffered by "collapsing." The injuries are consistent with a beating or the stress of fighting desperately to breathe while she was being smothered.

I find it hard to believe that these injuries are a rusult of major truma sustained the night she collapsed and the doctors who traded her that night failed to notice them?

She collapesed for unknown reason and they don't do a physical?

They tried to revive her and when they couldn't they just say oh well?

We don't know what happended but hey we don't do physicals on practically dead people. People who are practically dead for some unkown reason?

Still not buying it.

455 posted on 03/21/2005 2:07:40 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: ClancyJ
Another point. If Michael did win the malpractice suit for "whatever" and, in actuality, he caused the damage to her through something and failed to provide CPR, would he be required to repay those funds should his guilt be discovered?

I would think that would be reasonable but the fact remains that a jury has already determined that malpractice was the cause.

How come he is surrounded on all sides by euthanasia proponents - the hospice, his lawyer, the owner of the hospice and major euthanasia promoter and Judge Greer?

I'm not very good at coming up with conspiracies. Why do you think it is?

456 posted on 03/21/2005 2:10:31 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY

Begging your pardon, there is no conspiracy theory involved. There is, however, strong medical evidence, from blood chemistry as well as the bone scan, that Michael Schiavo tried to smother his wife in 1990 in the course of an ordinary domestic fight.


457 posted on 03/21/2005 2:10:46 AM PST by T'wit (Retire to Florida! Bring your estate. No feeding tube needed. The crematorium is warm and ready!)
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To: PFKEY

Well you know how we are - same was done with Scott, OJ, anything we are all fired up about. We all throw in our theories while we wait for the news.

Sometimes, we figure things out. Same kookiness that appears at the watercooler.


458 posted on 03/21/2005 2:11:29 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: Howlin

Its funny ist it 40,000 children are aborted a day just in this country and not one man can stop what a woman wants to do with her body !

And yet this one man is allowed to murder his wife only on heresay his heresay with no medical exam to probe the facts and being dead she would be immediatly cremated with once again no exam i doubt very much if he's telling the truth about anything .

We kill to many of our own in this country

Every female in this country has the right to abortion if they want it and no man can stop them through any court its been tried and tried to no avail

Why should mike be able to Kill his wife who at the least is or has at the momment the mind of a child .

Now i hear there are recordings of her responding to her father recent recordings would prove she is not a vegatable but a victim of some sinister plot to shut her up .

Whats mike got to lose after 15 years of torture or the judge for that matter ....?


459 posted on 03/21/2005 2:17:02 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (What are we as a country without our God Our law or our Constitution FREEDOM pales without all 3)
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To: PFKEY
>> We don't know what happended but hey we don't do physicals on practically dead people. People who are practically dead for some unkown reason?

We do know what happened to her. It took time to develop the information. A person can be smothered with few or no external marks.

460 posted on 03/21/2005 2:19:25 AM PST by T'wit (Retire to Florida! Bring your estate. No feeding tube needed. The crematorium is warm and ready!)
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