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Judge Greer Having fun with The Department of Children and Families in Terri Schiavo Case!
Notice of Filing Case No. 2D05-1455 (3/24/2005) ^

Posted on 03/26/2005 4:41:53 PM PST by Harry Jones

After hearing 1egal argument and being duly advised in the premises, the Court ruled that the executive and judjcial branches of government are separate but equal and that the executive branch is not superior in the area of judicial matters.

Page3 From Judge Greer's Order against Fla Dept Family Services!

http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/news/noticeoffiling.pdf

(Excerpt) Read more at state.fl.us ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: dcf; schiavo; terri; terrihysteria; terrischiavo
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To: Harry Jones
Greer is such a ( @$#%^&%$#$% I will get banned). WE the people are more powerful than he is and the executive branch is more powerful than the judicial.

Why? Answer this- who has the power of pardon for things which have occurred in the judicial? (The executive branch.)

Greer needs to be arrested and spend the rest of his days in prison.

101 posted on 03/26/2005 8:22:59 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
RE: "who has the power of pardon for things which have occurred in the judicial? (The executive branch.)"

Good point. But alas, some small claims court judge from Tinytown, Fla will likely rule that executives no longer have that authority. Thus sending the president and governors into a tizzy sparking "brave" talk of appealing the ruling. Then meekly accepting it -- anything to avoid a "constitutional crisis."

102 posted on 03/26/2005 8:37:49 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: The Red Zone
But if an actual executive defiance of a court occurs, it's the legislature which is charged with judging that executive. If the legislature is sympathetic, they won't impeach.

finally =- someone spelled it out in clear and simple terms!

Thank you!

my worry would be - the Florida legislature voted down Jeb's bill to save Terri - If he then went against their vote and the court - would they not be liable, in defense of their own decision, to - if not actually impeach, go thru' the motions? If they started the proceedings, the leftist-soaked media would circle and howl like banshees...and there would be a three ring circus for months, rendering Jeb damaged beyond effectiveness.

And it would not be restricted to Florida - the movement would spread to Washington.

I do not think Jeb can break the law without creating a gaping hole in the fabric of our Constitution that the leftist democrats would jump thru and use at every turn...

103 posted on 03/26/2005 8:53:28 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: shadoww

amen


104 posted on 03/26/2005 8:55:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Viking2002
I hear he's under 24/7 armed guard protection. May that only be the least of his woes.

and he's been asked by his church not to attend there - and I'm sure he doesn't dare to go out in public.

He's going to be a lonely man rotten excuse for a human being...

and he has earned it - and more, but I'll leave that up to God - I have faith He can handle it. (I wonder if Greer wonders about that.)

105 posted on 03/26/2005 9:00:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
DIVA BETSY ROSS WROTE:

"Greer is such a ( @$#%^&%$#$% I will get banned). WE the people are more powerful than he is and the executive branch is more powerful than the judicial."

"Why? Answer this- who has the power of pardon for things which have occurred in the judicial? (The executive branch.)"

"Greer needs to be arrested and spend the rest of his days in prison."

And since we KNOW Greer "would never want to live like that," he should get no artificial life support---like food and water---while he is in prison!!!

106 posted on 03/26/2005 9:09:19 PM PST by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!)
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To: Hamilton2
also, there are many reports that, besides Felos having been on the Hospice board and an ardent proponent of euthanasia (I don't know why anyone isn't calling it this, along with starvation and murder - for it IS all three) - that michael S is a nurse - for the county police!

connect all the dots - Terri never had a chance

107 posted on 03/26/2005 9:10:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
The sad part is that no judges permition is required!

FS415.1051

2) EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTION.--If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury to the vulnerable adult and that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services, the department may take action under this subsection. If the vulnerable adult has the capacity to consent and refuses consent to emergency protective services, emergency protective services may not be provided. (a) Emergency entry of premises.--If, upon arrival at the scene of the incident, consent is not obtained for access to the alleged victim for purposes of conducting a protective investigation under this subsection and the department has reason to believe that the situation presents a risk of death or serious physical injury, a representative of the department and a law enforcement officer may forcibly enter the premises. If, after obtaining access to the alleged victim, it is determined through a personal assessment of the situation that no emergency exists and there is no basis for emergency protective services intervention under this subsection, the department shall terminate the emergency entry. (b) Emergency removal from premises.--If it appears that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services and that the vulnerable adult, from the personal observations of the representative of the department and specified medical personnel or law enforcement officers, is likely to incur a risk of death or serious physical injury if such person is not immediately removed from the premises, then the representative of the department shall transport or arrange for the transportation of the vulnerable adult to an appropriate medical or protective services facility in order to provide emergency protective services. Law enforcement personnel have a duty to transport when medical transportation is not available or needed and the vulnerable adult presents a threat of injury to self or others. If the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian is present, the protective investigator must seek the caregiver's or guardian's consent pursuant to subsection (4) before the vulnerable adult may be removed from the premises, unless the protective investigator suspects that the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation. The department shall, within 24 hours after providing or arranging for emergency removal of the vulnerable adult, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays, petition the court for an order authorizing emergency protective services. (c) Emergency medical treatment.--If, upon admission to a medical facility, it is the opinion of the medical staff that immediate medical treatment is necessary to prevent serious physical injury or death, and that such treatment does not violate a known health care advance directive prepared by the vulnerable adult, the medical facility may proceed with treatment to the vulnerable adult. If a person with legal authority to give consent for the provision of medical treatment to a vulnerable adult has not given or has refused to give such consent, examination and treatment must be limited to reasonable examination of the patient to determine the medical condition of the patient and treatment reasonably necessary to alleviate the emergency medical condition or to stabilize the patient pending court determination of the department's petition authorizing emergency protective services. Any person may seek an expedited judicial intervention under rule 5.900 of the Florida Probate Rules concerning medical treatment procedures.

2004->Ch0415->Section%201051#0415.1051

108 posted on 03/26/2005 9:15:43 PM PST by Harry Jones
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To: shadoww
I think I'll send it to Jeb Bush's office too.

we should send it to all the media - including our radio friends - let them know just who these and what these people are

109 posted on 03/26/2005 9:15:44 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: churchillbuff
Again, I invite anyone to go back and search your posts. Your vitriol and name-calling underscores the veracity of my point.

Alright Mr. Courage? Where are you? I don't see you breaking down the door of the hospice. I don't see you entering the room with a machine gun. That's all that can be done at this point. Why aren't you doing it?

110 posted on 03/26/2005 9:18:24 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: AmishDude
I don't see you entering the room with a machine gun. That's all that can be done at this point. Why aren't you doing it?

AND MAYBE THAT TIME HAS COME!

111 posted on 03/26/2005 9:21:46 PM PST by Harry Jones
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To: AmishDude
Alright Mr. Courage? Where are you? I don't see you breaking down the door of the hospice."""

If I were the governor of Florida - the chief law enforcement officer and executive entrusted with defense of the state constitution - you'd see me in Pinellas, along with the National Guard.

112 posted on 03/26/2005 9:22:30 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

If he did so, he would do nothing more than break down the door against the will of the Pinellas county sheriff's office. You can do as much, why don't we blame you?


113 posted on 03/26/2005 9:26:00 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: churchillbuff
The governor shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

art1 sec1a florida constitution

114 posted on 03/26/2005 9:28:14 PM PST by Harry Jones
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To: churchillbuff
In contrast, it WOULD take courage to stare down Judge Greer - - and neither of the Bushes is showing that they have that courage

To be fair, I don't think they are afraid of Greer - I think they are afraid of the polls. Not sure if that makes them any more courageous though...
115 posted on 03/26/2005 9:30:13 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: churchillbuff
I always said

Ad Nauseum.

116 posted on 03/26/2005 9:30:31 PM PST by Stentor
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To: maine-iac7

BRAVO!!!!!


117 posted on 03/26/2005 9:30:56 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Antoninus
You just keep on believing that. The sad thing is, this may mark a real turning point for the Democrats--the moment when the base of the Republican party realized that the GOP is not interested in fighting for pro-life issues. Our base is currently demoralized, cynical, and angry. If the GOP does nothing in the Senate over the next year, I expect the Party of Death to make significant gains in 2006.

that's just what they're counting on - to make hay out of this - and I'm sure they're heartened and encouraged by the faint hearted like you people ready to put the blame in the Bushes instead of michael S and all the damnable judges -

That's like saying the sheriff in Homossa, who was crying at little Jessica Lunsford's memorial service today - was the one responsible for her death because he didn't find her in time - even tho it was not possible

118 posted on 03/26/2005 9:32:27 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: AmishDude
churchillbuff wrote: always said that it didn't take that much courage to stand up to Saddam Hussein - he's everybody's idea of a villain,

you answered:

Not yours. You were pro-Saddam and I invite anyone to search on your previous posts to verify it for themselves.

I think we need to start doing this on a lot of posts here - I wonder if some of the FR's who've turned their fingers to the Bushes instead of the culprits - has given aid and comfort to the DU's (who are surely lurking and smirking) and thus encourages them to post here to add fuel to the fire -

time to start outing them

119 posted on 03/26/2005 9:39:24 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Greer needs to be arrested and spend the rest of his days in prison.

He's been banned from his church - and I doubt he dares go out in public -, so he's getting a chance to get used to being alone and afraid - (why does that make me feel good?_

120 posted on 03/26/2005 9:42:24 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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