Posted on 03/27/2005 6:31:49 PM PST by Golden Gate
Edited on 03/27/2005 6:49:29 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
IF (big IF) he calls effectively for tightening up the rules so no more Terris, what are we going to do, vote for a Rat in his place so they can undo all that?
I think the jury is still out, but they're mumbling loudly about their final vote.
Thanks, I learn something new here everyday.
I am going to be glued to the news tomorrow - hoping for that - and hoping they can get to Terri in time - I don't understand why the so-called reporters aren't making more noise about her supposedly getting morphine after all the talk about how painless the process was. We know they use morphine to hasten the process of death...
The Declaration of Independence is the presupposition of rights and conditions that accrue to all persons. Upon it is built the Constitution.
Others may say that this is a Constitutional crisis, among other things. I agree. Life and liberty are now gone, and we will never be able to complain to any country anywhere about human rights violations with any credibility ever again because of this.
Who
Who speaks for Terri ?
Michael loves another.
Who cares for Terri ?
They won't let her mother.
Who's feeding Terri ?
Greer says, no food at all.
Who will save Terri ?
We watch our nation fall.
CG 3/23/2005
- by Conspiracy Guy (dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot)
My tagline is from an affidavit, and she is not the only one that swore an oath saying so. - by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
If you want to keep Terri alive-o -
You've got to get her away from that judge & Michael Schiavo.
the situation is not static. it falls to us to ReDeclare those principals. Our founders would. Are we to slink away from the responsibility that history has put on us?
Thought you might find this interesting regarding our discussion on Jeb Bush's future:
The Terri Schiavo case is rousing the moderates
By Dick Morris writing in THE HILL 3/31/05
The scene is familiar to anyone with a nodding acquaintance with American politics — prayer vigils, demonstrations, talk-radio hosts obsessing, the Christian right closing in. But in the terrible tragedy of Terri Schiavo, the center is joining the debate with a ferocity usually reserved for the right.
As in most social debates, the moderates have the majority, but, unlike discussions over abortion or gay marriage, in this debate they also match the intensity of their conservative critics.
Most of us will never have an abortion. We are either too male, too old, too inactive or too moral. The life/choice debate is, for us, a bit of a spectator sport. So is the focus on gay marriage. We may care about the issue, but, as Clinton would often put it, we don’t have a dog in that hunt.
But we will all die — and don’t we know it! We can all see ourselves at the wrong end of a feeding tube, sucking out sustenance to sustain a life we might more willingly forfeit. We can not only put ourselves in the place of those most intimately concerned with Schiavo’s fate — her husband and parents — but we can put ourselves right there in the bed, in a coma — which the doctors call a “persistent vegetative state” — with no hope and no life worth living.
A recent poll by the New York Post showed that, while two-thirds of Americans favor the removal of Terri’s feeding tube, more than 80 percent would want their own tube to be removed were they similarly situated. Schiavo is not just a political issue to those who advocate terminating her life support. She is our worst personal nightmare.
To those who oppose the right-to-life position, the political intervention by state and federal legislators and executives, is, truly, the most intrusive example of the very big governmental excesses that the political right decries.
One can well understand the passion of the pro-lifers on the issue of abortion. They have a fetus to protect. For them, the commitment to preserving life carries into the womb. We may not agree, but we can certainly respect and empathize with their view.
But with Schiavo, there is no fetus. There is just Terri. And when we put ourselves in her place, more than 80 percent of us think we would want to die. To be told that we must linger in a non-life because of the dictates of a governor wedded to the religious right and a Congress in the grip of ideologically driven leaders seems to the vast majority of us a level of government interference we find too intrusive to tolerate.
Next to a decision that we must live as vegetables, OSHA regulations, IRS bullying and EPA stubbornness pale by comparison. How ironic that, at the precise moment when most of us are prepared to embrace the agenda of the libertarian conservatives, we find the Republican Party, their supposed champions, running screaming in the other direction.
Politically, the Schiavo case will hurt the Republican Party, but the damage will soon fade. The president has stepped lightly on the issue, and his popularity and effectiveness will not be affected. But Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) better look for a new line of work. The right is mad at him for not standing in the hospice door. The center is furious at his butting in where most Americans, and Floridians, feel he has no right to be. Only the left is overjoyed to see a possible presidential contender caught in the crossfire.
Jeb is showing that he lacks George’s ability to dance and duck. We elected Bush Sr. knowing he was once pro-choice, proof that he was no fanatic. We chose Bush Jr. because he let us know, early in the campaign, that he would not spend his presidency relitigating — literally or figuratively — Roe v. Wade, however abortion offended his sense of right and wrong. He made clear he had other, higher priorities.
But by taking a doctrinaire position and then backing off it, Jeb Bush has shown us that he would charge where others would tread with caution. Too bad. We might have needed him to stop Hillary.
Morris is the author of Rewriting History, a rebuttal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) memoir, Living History.
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