Posted on 04/01/2005 12:08:23 PM PST by Wolfstar
Edited on 04/01/2005 12:11:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
USA Today is Title/Link Only
Again, the Schindler's petition, and Whittemore's ruling, pertained to a request for temporary injunctive relief.
To protest Terri's murder.. We should deny water to our front lawns. Across America millions of dead lawns!
Exactly!
Yes, and that is the point of the USA Today editorial.
My point in posting it, aside from merely informing FR readers, is to raise awareness that soon the larger issues will be debated in Congress and in state legislatures. It's time to look beyond all the acrimony focused on Schiavo and begin to focus on laws that may result.
This is no longer about the personal Schiavo soap opera, but about laws that will affect and govern how each and every one of us deals with the end of our lives and those of our loved ones.
And THAT, dear Peach, is murder by the state.
Are cancer patients at risk now, too?
Diabetics?
How about veterans with brain injury?
THIS WAS MURDER. IT SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED because:
1) it is wrong, and
2) when truly evil things go 'bump' in the night.
FReepers are here to 'bump' back.
I also encourage everyone to have a Living Will.
But what about very young children? And what about the millions who we just know won't sign living wills for a variety of reasons. A verbal statement to someone should have some validity.
And now a second wife in New York is fighting her husband's Living Will. When her husband dies, the $$ goes to his daughter by his first wife, so the second wife is worth more while he's alive, even though it's by machine and it's against his express wishes.
I'm not so sure we can even count on a Living Will anymore between judges who may find for the second wife and a Congress, some of whom at least have expressed the ideal that life is life and no one should ever be taken off a machine for any reason.
I have had more and better conversations via freepmail than I've had on the open board. For two weeks now.
And I've posted a lot on the open forum, but it's nothing compared to my freepmail.
And yes, I was commenting on the tone of the editorial, the style. The points they make are fine, sort of a statement of the obvious, but that's OK. A review of where we are. I just don't like the tone. Whatever. It's a style point. They write like Times editorialists.
Yes, I know. And I'm telling you that that was neither the subject of the Schindler's petition, nor of Whittemore's ruling. Both centered on the question of injunctive relief, not of the de novo review per se.
I have three beautiful adult children. Those children would never have been born if my ex husbands parents had been forced to pull his plug. Their Dr.s said he would forever be a vegetable. God works in mysterious ways. But he works in his own time. If we rush to judgment and end life then those that God choses to send back to us are lost forever.
Try this: Imagine a billion years times a billion years. Try to think of just how long that is. Then realize that that is less then even a blink of an eye when it comes to forever. Terri's life was taken away from her forever.
If some were wrong, can they give her back her life?
In our family, neither of those people had made the decision, so to speak. My stepsister was too young and never spoke of her wishes. My husband's aunt was elderly and had made one comment to him when they stood at her brother's bedside as he was connected to a feeding tube but had no cognitive ability following cardiac arrest and subsequent PVS.
Some people in our newspaper had young children who suffered severe brain injury. There was a man on CNN the other night whose daughter was basically brain dead and he wanted the tube pulled. The courts would not let him. I never did hear why.
This issue is bigger than Terri and whether you think or believe that she may have once or twice told Michael she didn't want to live on tubes.
Say what? I thought these were personal family matters. In that case, repeal all the laws and forbid the government involvement on any level.
Having said that, there's no question whatsoever that the Christian right pushed this case to national prominence, and have dominated the national conversation so far.
DeLay's a Washinton insider now. If you ask me, he's been in DC long enough. I trust Texas to send someone new with ideas I can appreciate, but without the coatings of filth and slime that DC bring.
Most don't seem to see the danger is the government making such decisions.
Good point. However, I understand that at least one committee already has hearings scheduled on these issues.
I really despise the MSM and their DECEITFUL tactics. Other than her family - friends, nurses who cared for her, doctors and priests said that Terri was alert and responsive, The FLORIDA DCF doctor who examined her in her fourth or fifth day of STARVATION and DEHYDRATION says Terri was in a semi-conscious state and was responsive to him . And 50 doctors who examined her records, said Terri was not in a coma pr pvs and could have been helped with therapy.
That's a wonderful story.
And I can't respond about this without getting off on a tangent about Terri specifically and I would prefer not to do that but instead focus on the bigger issues surrounding end of life issues.
But certainly stories like yours, with medical background of why the doctors thought he would be a vegetable, need to be discussed. For instance, was it so long ago and newer and better technologies are available that doctors today wouldn't even recommend pulling the plug?
Agreed.
My Marine son recently sent me a picture a two Marines trying to save a wounded Marine. One died trying. This is what honor and morality is about, not rationalizing premature death.
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