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To: buffyt

Please don't reduce the holocaust to a decision to remove a feeding tube of a woman who no longer had any life to call her own.


77 posted on 04/01/2005 1:04:12 PM PST by OldFriend ( SAW MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ON CSPAN........AWESOME)
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To: OldFriend

Did I say I reduced the Holocaust? I just kept thinking about how so many people stood by and did nothing for so long as people were systematically starved to death, and worse. I kept thinking all last week of the photos I saw in the Dachau museum of the starving victims who died in that death camp. I can't help but think that starving our fellow man is wrong. Whether it is in a death camp or in a hospice. Terri tried to say "I want to live" when they told her they were going to remove the tube. All she could utter was "I wan" And I can totally identify with that, too. My grandma had a stroke when she was my age and it totally paralyzed her entire right side. After that she couldn't really talk the rest of her life. About the only word she could say clearly was NO. She would get so frustrated when she tried to have a conversation with me, her brain damage was so extreme. But she was able to walk again, with a cane, and got around pretty well for many years after her stroke. She was never able to use her right hand again and she couldn't really talk.

I just keep being haunted by the faces of the starved victims at Dachau every time I hear about the starving of Terri.

And Dachau wasn't just jews, there were many Christians killed there, too. Including nuns. It was a real killing field. They started with killing the comatose elderly, then the comatose retarded, then the other elderly, then the rest of the retarded, then the jews and anyone who helped them including nuns and priests. If we don't watch out that CULTURE OF DEATH will creep into our world.

How does that reduce the holocaust.

She had a life to call her own. If she had therapy.


83 posted on 04/01/2005 1:11:10 PM PST by buffyt (I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion. From Doctor's Hippocrates oath)
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To: OldFriend
Please don't reduce the holocaust to a decision to remove a feeding tube of a woman who no longer had any life to call her own.

Every holocaust starts somewhere.

87 posted on 04/01/2005 1:15:57 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: OldFriend
Please don't reduce the holocaust to a decision to remove a feeding tube of a woman who no longer had any life to call her own.

We are not trying to reduce the Holocaust, we are trying to prevent another one.

Dr. Cranford was the principal medical witness brought in by Schiavo and Felos to support their position that Terri was PVS. Judge Greer was obviously impressed by Cranford’s résumé: Cranford travels throughout the country testifying in cases involving PVS and brain impairment. He is widely recognized by courts as an expert in these issues, and in some circles is considered “the” expert on PVS. His clinical judgment has carried the day in many cases, so it is relevant to examine the manner in which he arrived at his judgment in Terri’s case. But before that, one needs to know a little about Cranford’s background and perspective: Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.

In published articles, including a 1997 op-ed in the Minneapolis–St. Paul Star Tribune, he has advocated the starvation of Alzheimer’s patients. He has described PVS patients as indistinguishable from other forms of animal life. He has said that PVS patients and others with brain impairment lack personhood and should have no constitutional rights. Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration.

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You might be interested in the following article:

From Small Beginnings: The Road to Genocide

If you doubt the slippery slope is there, just look at the abortion issue.

98 posted on 04/01/2005 1:31:32 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: OldFriend
Official killing of so called Useless eaters was the forerunner of the Holocaust. I have a cousin that had a rare form of blood Cancer,our family was told she never reach adulthood, thousands of dollars in medical bills were run up,but now she is in her 30's with kids of her own,should she have been killed because of the cost?

The Schiavo case isn't about the right to choose,its about the Idea held by the liberal elite that that if you are to sick\disabled and unable to work and pay taxes to their beloved state, your selfish and to want to live and it would better off for you just to die

and as someone who has been on SSI most of my adult life because of diabetics/back problems I have more dog in this fight then you think

118 posted on 04/01/2005 2:34:29 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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