Posted on 04/02/2005 5:29:09 AM PST by KidGlock
FBI Finds Explosives in Nichols' Old Home
Saturday April 2, 2005 8:46 AM
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By JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is facing the possibility it made an embarrassing oversight in the Oklahoma City bombing case a decade ago after new information led agents to explosive materials hidden in Terry Nichols' former home they had search several times before.
FBI officials said the material was found Thursday night and Friday in a crawl space of the house in Herington, Kan. They believe agents failed to check that space during the numerous searches of the property during the original investigation of Nichols and Timothy McVeigh.
``The information so far indicates the items have been there since prior to the Oklahoma City bombing,'' Agent Gary Johnson said in a telephone interview from Oklahoma City.
FBI spokesman Jeff Lanza said in Kansas the materials were found in boxes, much of them wrapped in plastic, and were being sent to the FBI lab for analysis. The bureau is operating on the assumption the evidence was from the original Oklahoma plot based on information developed in recent days, he said.
Agents now will be looking for any fingerprints and other clues on the evidence that might show where the explosives originated and who may have possessed them before they got into Nichols' home.
The extraordinary discovery, just three weeks from the 10th anniversary of the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 people, could prove a new embarrassment to an FBI already burned by missteps in this case and the pre-Sept. 11 period.
Nichols, who is serving multiple life sentences on federal and state charges, hasn't lived at the property for years. FBI officials said the information that led to the discovery indicated Nichols had buried the evidence before the attack on April 19, 1995.
One of Nichols' attorneys said Friday the discovery was either a hoax or a major failure by the FBI.
``They were there often,'' said attorney Brian Hermanson, who represented Nichols in last year's Oklahoma state murder trial that ended with Nichols' conviction. ``It's surprising. I would think they would have done their job and found everything that was there.''
``But I'm still suspicious that it could be something planted there,'' Hermanson said. ``The house was empty for several years and if somebody wanted to put something there to incriminate Terry they had plenty of time to have done it.''
Dan Defenbaugh, the retired FBI agent who ran the Oklahoma City investigation, said he was dismayed that his agency may have missed the evidence. ``When you do a search warrant of that importance, you have to make sure it's thorough,'' he said.
FBI agents went to the property Thursday night and then summoned a bomb squad after finding the potentially dangerous materials, Lanza said. The search ended late Friday afternoon and the evidence was being shipped to the FBI lab outside Washington.
Lanza said the material was buried in the crawl space under about a foot of rock, dirt and gravel, an area that had not been searched during the original investigation.
``Depending on the situation, that's something that may not necessarily be searched, especially given the fact that there was no information there was anything in there. And even if you searched the crawl space at that time and dug through the rock and rubble you wouldn't find anything until you went at least a foot down,'' he said.
Lanza said the information that spurred the search indicated that ``Nichols was responsible for hiding these devices'' and ``we are operating under the assumption that Terry Nichols put them there.'' He declined to be more specific about the source of the information.
Nichols and McVeigh, who was executed for his role in the Oklahoma City bombing, had used blasting caps, fertilizer and fuel to make the bomb used to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.
McVeigh's trial lawyer, Stephen Jones, said Friday he knew that some materials gathered for the attack were never found by the FBI and this discovery could answer some of those questions. But he added it also could prove to be another black eye for the FBI, which was criticized for causing a delay in McVeigh's execution after it found new documents in the case.
``I think it is clearly embarrassing if it turns out to be true,'' Jones said. ``We've gone from not producing everything for the defendants to failing to recover from one of the conspirator's homes evidence that clearly is material.''
Georgia Rucker has owned the house in Kansas since 1997 and rented it several times. She said Thursday the last tenant was evicted in October and she had been preparing the home for sale. Rucker said she was contacted by two FBI agents Thursday and gave permission for authorities to search the premises.
Last year, the FBI ordered a review of some aspects of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing probe after a series of Associated Press stories identified evidence that the lead investigator in the case said had never been shown to his team.
The evidence raised questions about whether a group of white supremacist bank robbers might have had some connection to the attack.
Uhhhh... Yeah.
And we are supposed to believe them when they say there is no John Doe #2?
ping
James Woolsey has said on many occasions that not all that should have been investigated was investigated.
Just damn.
I'm not surprised, that's all you need to know. :P
Very interesting spin on the story but then it is John Solomon who is hardly an objective reporter.
Well, sounds to me like they are trying to delicately admit there was. They are looking for information, fingerprints, etc. I won't be surprised if they say, "You know, there might be an Iraqi connection to this after all."
Please inform: how does this lead to the possibility of there being an Iraqi connection?
On Aug. 22, 1996, just before the Democratic National Convention,
Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI.
mmediately after this meeting, as it happened,
all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.
What possibly more could we have expected from the FBI= First Bunch Idiots? NSNR
don't think Sandy Burgler had anything to do with the recent search do you
I_BE_THE_ONE wrote:
Apparently a requirement to be in the FBI and CIA is to be nearly brain dead. This state of mental activity will help you get other government jobs such as federal judgeships.
--> LMAO! Most are no different than you or me, or a cop for that matter.
Hey, there are creepy-crawly things in crawl spaces. Give them a break /sarc
Interesting theory on the discovery
they never say what all is in a plea bargin, do they
Jim Traficant once said.
"The FBI and CIA are so stupid that they could throw themselves at the ground and miss."
No matter your feelings on Jimmie the rug, the guy nailed it a lot of times and was always entertaining.
2) The FBI is already wondering where they came from.
3) Most experts admit that Nichols and McVeigh did not possess the necessary experience or knowledge to build effective ANFO bombs.
4) There are connections---admittedly tenuous, for now---between Nichols and Iraqi/al-Qaeda bombers in the Philippines (see Jayna Davis' book, "The Third Terrorist"---and no, I don't accept everything she says as gospel either).
5) It would not be beyond reason to expect that some of these explosives could be traceable, and traceable to people other than McVeigh/Nichols, i.e., our frinds from AQ or Iraq. Let's just see where this heads. I'm NOT a "conspiracy person," and if you read previous threads, I've always supported the notion that McV/Nichols were totally responsible . . . but I have held out the possibility of other evidence surfacing, and have always maintained that the FBI missed a lot of "loose ends," especially regarding John Doe #2 or #3, whatever he's called.
Perhaps there's to be some "un-earthing" to be done in Little Rock and Chappaqua, too!
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