Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: A. Pole
Study some history, read some classic political thinkers like Plato, Aristotle or Machiavelli.

I won't pretend to be a historian, but, weren't Plato and Aristotle key to the original rise of democracy in ancient Greece? And didn't America surpass ancient Greece about 20 years ago as the longest surviving democracy in human history?

Of course, that's just me. I may be wrong. It's more important to indoctrinate our children into revisionist history for the good of all mankind, facts notwithstanding.

11 posted on 04/02/2005 9:03:36 PM PST by CruisinAround
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]


To: CruisinAround
And didn't America surpass ancient Greece about 20 years ago as the longest surviving democracy in human history?

If you mean republics (pure democracies are short lived) the longest lived republics was Venice (9 centuries) then Sparta and Rome. The oldest surviving republic is Switzerland.

Rome (the most similar to USA) stopped to be a real republic after/because she acquired the empire.

13 posted on 04/02/2005 9:24:25 PM PST by A. Pole (Sun Tzu: ""Foreknowledge [...]cannot be found out by calculation. It must be obtained from people.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: CruisinAround; A. Pole
And didn't America surpass ancient Greece about 20 years ago as the longest surviving democracy in human history?

Page one, Soldier's Handbook (USA Army): America is NOT a democracy, America is a representative republic.

A democracy is 51% of the population doing what it wants to the other 49%. In other words, Mob Rule. The LA Riots were democracy in action.

17 posted on 04/02/2005 10:35:21 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: CruisinAround
I won't pretend to be a historian, but, weren't Plato and Aristotle key to the original rise of democracy in ancient Greece?

Democratic city-states had already been establilshed in Greece, including Athens, by the time Plato and Aristotle were born. Plato in his "Republic" was actually an opponent of democracy, proposing a society ruled by an elite group of philosophers.

19 posted on 04/02/2005 10:54:30 PM PST by stripes1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: CruisinAround
And didn't America surpass ancient Greece about 20 years ago as the longest surviving democracy in human history?

BTW, There was not such thing as Greek state before XIX century. (Unless you count the Eastern part of the Roman Empire after the West was conquered by the barbarians).

There was an Athenian democracy lasting very short and Spartan republic which lasted much longer than USA.

20 posted on 04/03/2005 7:08:34 AM PDT by A. Pole (Sun Tzu: ""Foreknowledge [...]cannot be found out by calculation. It must be obtained from people.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson