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To: All; TheSarce; Lesforlife; wildandcrazyrussian; STARWISE; Pajamajan

CORRECTION TO THE CORRECTION

OK, I finally found it...

Our Freeper-friends were NOT mistaken about hearing or reading that Terri was at one time getting WALKING THERAPY. Apparently, Terri's medical records show that Terri HAD once been using "parallel bars" with assistance, just like the firefighter Donald Herbert...

One such report for example, came from a doctor who had examined Terri personally for TEN HOURS, plus he reviewed MOST IF NOT ALL OF HER EARLY MEDICAL RECORDS, and told this to Sean Hannity: see this post 105 for more details...


Also see this post 106 - Firefighter Donald Herbert WAS diagnosed as PVS - per his own doctor! - contrary to what the MSM would LIKE you to believe!

Now if only Terri could have only gotten a similar type of AGRESSIVE treatment!!!!
2,487 posted on 05/11/2005 2:36:30 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater
Apparently, Terri's medical records show that Terri HAD once been using "parallel bars" with assistance, just like the firefighter Donald Herbert...

WOW! I've been following Terri's plight for years, and never had any idea she'd been able to participate in that level of therapy! Just out of caution, do we have any confirmation of this aside from this one radio interview? (No, I'm not one of the bash-Dr.H crowd, just would like to corroborate it since it doesn't seem to have come up much before. Or maybe I just missed it in the mountain of info over the years.)

It was so heartbreaking to read the Progress Notes from after she had the brain-stimulation implants, she was making slow-but-noticable progress over just a few months. No, she didn't have some miraculous recovery after the implants, but clearly something was changing for the better, the various personnel's notes paint an interesting picture.

FUE, I assume you did the transcription on that interview, thanks SO much for your hard work! I know how time-consuming it is, you did a terrific job. (And the color-coding's pretty, LOL.)

So many people worked so hard and put their hearts and souls into trying to save Terri... bless you all, FR is such an amazing place.

2,490 posted on 05/11/2005 4:04:17 AM PDT by TheSarce (Liberalism: The irrational, intolerant cult that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Future Useless Eater; TheSarce; amdgmary; Pepper777; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter
It's just heart breaking to read of all the progress she was making when she was "allowed" to have therapy. I didn't know that she had been using parallel bars. I had read about the speech therapy, and that she was saying words and attempting to communicate.

As far as her condition in the later videos, that was a direct result of no therapy being provided. She developed contractures. Anyone with the slightest medical knowledge will tell you "use it or lose it" is the standard rule. That's why therapy is so important.

Terri's rights as a disabled person were violated at every turn, neither MS nor the judge, had the legal right to deny her therapy, under Florida law. For that matter the judge did not have the right to deny her hydration and food, even by mouth. That's what made it murder.

They NEVER GAVE HER A CHANCE TO LIVE. They wouldn't even "allow" her to be TESTED to make sure that she was PVS before they killed her. They wouldn't let her be TESTED to see if she could swallow- She couldn't even have a simple test for that.
( These are the same sort of people who let Jessica Lundsford's killer out, and all the other pedophiles out, because they are so worried about pedophiles rights being violated. But- slowly execute, by refusing to provide any water or food, to a totally dependent disabled person. Her "crime" is that she can't feed or get water for herself- because of contractures, lack of therapy- Carry out the execution by denial of water and food, over an 11 day period, until she is dead........ Well, that's no problem for the "judges")

AND how about the fact that Michael Schiavo was HAVING PEOPLE PUNISHED, who provided any form of stimulation for her i.e. her brother and sister denied visitation because they played a CD of music for her. That should have raised red flags right there. It's just one of hundreds, maybe even thousands of incidents that point to the less-than-honorable intentions of MS toward his wife.

The sad thing is that people STILL don't understand what happened to Terri. I hear or read that "she was in a coma" of "brain dead". The case was so complicated it was difficult for the public to understand.

I hope her family will continue to speak out, for the sake of others like Terri. It seems that the case needs to be condensed into the most pertinent points.

To me they are- that there was no proof of her wishes, her husband also had huge conflicts of interest and should have been dismissed as her guardian a long time ago. If there's no written will hearsay, should NOT be enough to have someone killed.

The point people need to understand is that dehydration WILL KILL ANYONE. even a perfectly healthy person. It can be used as euthanasia.

You'd think all the seniors in Floriduh would be worried that. If they ever lose the ability to speak for and feed themselves, that a relative could walk into a court and say "she didn't want to live like this, she told me so. Stop feeding her giving her water, kill her" then collect the estate. You'd think they'd be worried.

Terri was never given a chance. i.e. they simply refused to look into weather she had recovered at more and was starting to respond ,as her family and some doctors claimed. They refused to let her be tested and executed her without even checking. I don't think a judge should be given the power to order someone to be starved /dehydrated to death period.

As for the progress notes of Terri responding to therapy, and her making so much progress that they had a special day for her at one of her rehab facilities, people need to know that.

I think it is crucial that we understand the exact nature of what was perpetrated on Terri by the judicial system, and what kind of condition she was in-i.e. the progress notes, speech therapy, special day named for her exc.

The myth of her being in a coma , has to be cleared up first, then maybe they will be able to understand why it was a hideous crime to let the judicial system, do this to her, or anyone, and that the laws MUST BE CHANGED TO PROTECT THE DISABLED.

The first step in preventing it from happening again, is understanding what happened in the first place.

Prayers for the Schindler family. Prayers for Terri for Justice.

2,509 posted on 05/12/2005 12:53:18 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( "Where there's life, there's hope"-Terri Schindler's message to the world-Never forget)
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