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1 posted on 04/07/2005 6:20:40 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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"It's not an easy life to do that, to want to maintain your identity as Catholic and gay," said Novak

G O O D.

2 posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:37 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah; DBeers; EdReform
Many gay American Catholics ignore such teachings, as do heterosexuals who skirt church rules against birth control.

Gotta love the religion of moral relativism, it's all the same sin. Bet this Sodomite isn't repentant.

4 posted on 04/07/2005 6:25:40 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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Yet in recent months, the 39-year-old gay man, who did not complete his seminary studies, has been thinking about leaving the church because of the legacy of Pope John Paul's stance on homosexuality

If this would happen more often in the seminaries, the Catholic Church would be way better off. We do not need seminarians who are not serious about dedicating their life to God's will and laws...

5 posted on 04/07/2005 6:25:52 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Life is often not easy.


7 posted on 04/07/2005 6:26:52 AM PDT by Fury
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Mayor Gavin Newsom, a Catholic, ignited the issue by allowing the weddings until they were barred by the California Supreme Court. Then, just last month, a Catholic judge ruled California's ban on homosexual marriage unconstitutional.

The Catholic Church should excommunicate Gavin Newsom. He is clearly a heretic...

9 posted on 04/07/2005 6:30:06 AM PDT by frogjerk
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Simple solution, don't be a Catholic, problem solved.


11 posted on 04/07/2005 6:31:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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The Catholic Church's rules on premarital sex applies to everyone not just gays. I wish they would quite acting like the rules only apply to THEM. All single men and women have the same rules in the eyes of the Church.
13 posted on 04/07/2005 6:33:32 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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It's not an easy life to do that, to want to maintain your identity as Catholic and an adulterer, thief, drug addict, [insert your own habitual sin here].

I guess its time for the Church to change its stance on all the disciplines we don't like, eh?


16 posted on 04/07/2005 6:34:26 AM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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Kind of amusing the liberals coming out of the woodwork telling the Catholics how to run their church.

I grew up (kinda) Catholic...you have to admit that the priestly lifestyle is certainly something that would attract gays, and I'm not slamming Catholics, its a great religion, but if one were predisposed to being gay, and you had this career/vocation which allows you not to marry and be in concert with other men........


17 posted on 04/07/2005 6:34:41 AM PDT by Pondman88
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"The church came out very much opposed to gay marriage and I would say that was part of it," he said, explaining why he stopped going to Mass regularly more than a year ago. "It has challenged my ability to feel comfortable in the church."

I know how he feels. I found the Church's stance against theft and adultery too onerous. I have stopped going to Mass because of the church's intolerance of my lifestyle.

;-)

18 posted on 04/07/2005 6:34:49 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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I'll expect to see this story in James Tarranto's Best of the Web under the heading "What would we do without Gay Catholics?"


19 posted on 04/07/2005 6:35:02 AM PDT by Huck (Unauthorized mp3 file sharing is THEFT.)
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This guy is clueless in our Faith.

He obviously was not provided valid or meaningful instructions in the Faith or he is just ignoring it.

First of all it is not easy to follow the Faith if you are hetrosexual. You are not supposed to have pre-marital sex or have sex outside of marriage. You are not supposed to use contraception. You are not supposed to break any of the 10 Commandments. Guess what it is not easy for us either, but we do it and if we fail we go to Confession and resolve to avoid making the same mistake again with God's grace.

Just another example someone that does not want to follow the Catholic Faith.

Getting tired of hearing the same old whinning published in the media.
20 posted on 04/07/2005 6:35:04 AM PDT by BobCNY
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priest sex scandals highlighting issues related to homosexual clergymen.

Reuters(!) said it this way???!! Someone's head will roll -- that's the elephant in the parlor (of the scandal) that's not supposed to be mentioned!

23 posted on 04/07/2005 6:37:45 AM PDT by maryz
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"Catholic teachings on homosexuality may not have changed much under John Paul, but his papacy coincided with the gay rights movements, AIDS and priest sex scandals highlighting issues related to homosexual clergymen."

Just because you flipped on the lights and the cockroaches are scrambling doesn't mean you throw twinkies on the floor to feed them. You get out the bug spray.


24 posted on 04/07/2005 6:38:34 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't mean it smells any better.)
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It has challenged my ability to feel comfortable in the church.

I just hate it when I go to church and that happens...

/sarcasm

25 posted on 04/07/2005 6:40:46 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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morning all...they're starting to come out of the woodwork.


26 posted on 04/07/2005 6:41:37 AM PDT by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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IMO it ought be Impossible for any to be "Gay" and Catholic
as it is impossible to be homosexual and CChristian. For the two ideas are mutually EXCLUSIVE. The heart soul and mind of the homosexual is identified by their obsession with their sexual identity -for this reason God gave them over to a reprobate mind -to do that which is not convienent. If any accept Christ as Lord of their life then they are "a new Creation" old things are passed away
they are dead to the lusts of the world and foolish if they continue to ressurect the dead. Those who insist they are
gay and Catholic/Christian are either decieved by the deciever or ignorant of the Truth.For those that are Christian ought obey the first great commandment.By this we will know they belong to God, and not to the Father of Lies.


28 posted on 04/07/2005 6:43:11 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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"The church came out very much opposed to gay marriage and I would say that was part of it," he said, explaining why he stopped going to Mass regularly more than a year ago. "It has challenged my ability to feel comfortable in the church."

All those who remain in their sin tend to feel that same challenge. The opposite of repentance is clinging to your sin. The disagreement here really isn't with the church...it's with God.

32 posted on 04/07/2005 6:45:33 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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"It's not an easy life to do that, to want to maintain your identity as Catholic and gay," said Novak, who married his partner in San Francisco last year.

This is kind of like saying "It's not easy being a Republican when I support only Democrats". How many of the tenents of the Church must you break before realizing that maybe being a preist for the Church is not for you.

34 posted on 04/07/2005 6:46:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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A sexually active "gay" Catholic is as absurd a notion as that of a peaceful Moslem. A true Catholic can no more be an active homosexual than a true Moslem can be against molesting children, raping women, and chopping off the heads of all infidels.


37 posted on 04/07/2005 6:48:06 AM PDT by bowzer313
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