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French librarian fears US domination on the Internet
NY TIMES NEWS SERVICE , PARIS ^ | 4/12/05

Posted on 04/11/2005 10:11:43 PM PDT by bloggodocio

CULTURE WARS: The head of the national library worries that Google's plan to place millions of English books online means the world will be viewed through US eyes

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005

As president of the French National Library, Jean-Noel Jeanneney has good reason to feel safe from the frequent incursions of American popular culture into contemporary French life. With its collection of 13 million books, the library is a reassuring symbol of the durability of French literature and thought.

Yet Jeanneney is not one to lower his guard. He grew alarmed last December when he read that Google planned to scan 15 million English-language books and make them available as digital files on the Web. In his view, the move would further strengthen American power to set a global cultural agenda.

"I am not anti-American, far from it," Jeanneney, 62, said in an interview in his office in the library's new headquarters overlooking the Seine river. "But what I don't want is everything reflected in an American mirror. When it comes to presenting digitized books on the Web, we want to make our choice with our own criteria."

So, when Google's initial announcement went unnoticed here, Jeanneney raised his voice. In a Jan. 23 article in the newspaper, Le Monde, entitled "When Google challenges Europe," he warned of "the risk of a crushing domination by America in the definition of the idea that future generations will have of the world."

Europe, he said, should counterattack by converting its own books into digital files and by controlling the page rankings of responses to searches. His one-man campaign bore fruit. At a meeting on March 16, President Jacques Chirac of France asked Jeanneney and the culture minister, Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres, to study how French and European library collections could be rapidly made available on the Web.

But where there is a will, is there a way?

Jeanneney is the first to acknowledge that he has a clearer idea of where he wants to go than how he will get there. On the technology required, for instance, he said that Europe had the choice of trying to develop its own search engine or of reaching agreement with Google, the world's most popular Internet search service, or perhaps with other Internet search providers, like Amazon.com, Microsoft and Yahoo.

Money, too, is a variable. Newly rich from its stock offering last summer, Google expects to spend US$150 million to US$200 million over a decade to digitize 15 million books from the collections of Harvard, Stanford, the University of Michigan, Oxford University and the New York Public Library.

In contrast, the French National Library's current book scanning program is modest. With an annual budget of only US$1.35 million, it has so far placed online some 80,000 books and 70,000 drawings and will soon add part of its collection of 19th-century newspapers.

"Given what's at stake, US$200 million is very little money," Jeanneney said of Google's planned investment in its program, known as Google Print.

Specifically, Jeanneney said he fears that Google's version of the universal library will place interpretation of French and other Continental European literature, history, philosophy and even politics in US hands. This, he says, represents a greater peril than, say, American movies, television or popular music.

Google says his fears are unfounded. It notes that, as with Google, page rankings on Google Print will be defined by public demand and not by political, cultural or monetary variables. Further, according to Nikesh Arora, vice president for European operations for Google, the company supports all moves to make information available on the Web in all languages.


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Wait, let me get this straight: the French are whining about yet another aspect of life where we outstrip them? Zut alors!

Bloggodocio

1 posted on 04/11/2005 10:11:43 PM PDT by bloggodocio
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They ought to have a budget to translate their French works into English, so that they can be sure that people 40 years from now will be able to read them.


2 posted on 04/11/2005 10:14:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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LOL! Yep, before long, we'll have 'em all talking like cowboys.


3 posted on 04/11/2005 10:16:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Roman.)
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To: All; PJ-Comix; Registered; Smartass; Seadog Bytes; doug from upland

"French librarian fears US domination on the Internet"

Totally laughing....gotta stop laughing to post a response.

Well, which is funnier -- that it's the French doing a global whiiiiiiiine or that the French can fry the internet with their cream puff concerns?


LOLOLOLOL.....


4 posted on 04/11/2005 10:23:37 PM PDT by Cindy
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the world will be viewed through US eyes

As it should be.

5 posted on 04/11/2005 10:29:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( .:: Johannes Paulus Magnus: "Well done, good and faithful servant!" ::.)
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To: bloggodocio

Well it's better than German domination.


6 posted on 04/11/2005 10:32:05 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: bloggodocio

Translation: We believe we should dominate the internet, and the world.


7 posted on 04/11/2005 10:37:35 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: bloggodocio

Hint to the Frenchies: Americans don't centrally plan their culture. They don't need "to set a global cultural agenda" - it happens pretty much organically. And Google is not owned by the United States government. Get a clue you cheese eatin' surrender monkeys!


8 posted on 04/11/2005 10:38:35 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: bloggodocio
Google says his fears are unfounded. It notes that, as with Google, page rankings on Google Print will be defined by public demand and not by political, cultural

That's what he's afraid of.

9 posted on 04/11/2005 10:39:26 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Pull the plug on them and send Al Bore over there to invent un system pour comunique entre ordinateur Francais.

Throw sKerry in as a translator.

10 posted on 04/11/2005 10:41:19 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: bloggodocio
CULTURE WARS: The head of the national library worries that Google's plan to place millions of English books online means the world will be viewed through US eyes

Good!!!

11 posted on 04/11/2005 10:43:19 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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Well now, since the French are monitoring the internet (and that's a real comfort): here's a French language site they may be interested in looking at:

http://www.ribaat.org
http://www.ribaat.org/services/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29214
http://www.ribaat.org/services/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29213

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ribaat.org%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0


12 posted on 04/11/2005 10:48:36 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: bloggodocio

Is there something the French don't fear?


13 posted on 04/11/2005 10:55:08 PM PDT by Archon of the East (Pray for a GOP backbone now!)
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France should be much more aware about dominance of Muslims in their country before American culture dominance of the world.


14 posted on 04/11/2005 10:58:02 PM PDT by Wiz
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The French are so small on the world scale, yet they have such a big opinion of themselves. If they want to lead the world in something (other than arrogance) they should invent something to benefit mankind, or do something better than anyone else. Right now they complain, and I'm tired of it.


15 posted on 04/11/2005 11:06:02 PM PDT by passionfruit
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I would love to see more literature online, especially foreign. Besides, you guys complain all the time about Google's liberal policies; now you trust them to team up with Harvard, Sanford, and Yale to bring us quality books?


16 posted on 04/11/2005 11:08:43 PM PDT by Styria
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To: Wiz

yeah,...misplaced concern,...the hallmark of a "goin' nowhere good" collection of stinky snobs


17 posted on 04/11/2005 11:10:19 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Cindy; farmfriend; All
RE: "When it comes to presenting digitized books on the Web, we want to make our choice with our own criteria."

...and I'd CERTAINLY support their right to do so... or not... as they choose. What is ludicrous, is his implication that some French guy, or group of French guys, should have the power to DICTATE what OTHERS do, with their own resources.
...Guess the French need to 'ante up' if they want to get themselves into the game.


18 posted on 04/11/2005 11:41:40 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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Dear France,

I'm sure you've got your own AlGore (but if you don't you're welcome to take ours!)

If you are afraid that we, the ones who developed the Internet, are going to dominate it, maybe you should develop your own... Hmmm... It could be called FrogNet, or maybe SurrenderNet...

Mark


19 posted on 04/11/2005 11:44:28 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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French librarian fears US domination on the Internet

WHO CARES?
20 posted on 04/11/2005 11:44:46 PM PDT by Ain Soph Aur
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