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To: DennisR

I don't remember being taught that Mary was sinless. Just a vigin. And then "Holy" (After giving birth to Jesus, I guess? Or maybe before...And that's why she was chosen by God?)

Anyway...I don't remember anything about her being without sin.

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116 posted on 04/14/2005 12:42:26 PM PDT by Dean Baker
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To: Dean Baker

Mary's Sinlessness has to do with the Church's interpretation of "full of Grace" (which I'm sure you would disagree with) and the Tradition handed down by the Apostles (which you would also disagree with).


129 posted on 04/14/2005 12:47:20 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: Dean Baker

From http://www.catholic.org/clife/prayers/prayers.php?section_id=31&name=Marian%20(Mary) - which I assume to be the official Catholic website. I could be wrong about that - anyone know?




Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary

Father, you prepared the Virgin Mary to be the worthy mother of your Son. You let her share beforehand in the salvation Christ would bring by his death, and kept her sinless from the first moment of her conception. Help us by her prayers to live in your presence without sin. We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

OR

Father, the image of the Virgin is found in the Church. Mary had a faith that your Spirit prepared and a love that never knew sin, for you kept her sinless from the first moment of her conception. Trace in our actions the lines of her love, in our hearts her readiness of faith. Prepare once again a world for your Son who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.



573 posted on 04/14/2005 8:31:04 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: Dean Baker

The trick question of catholic doctrine is who is the only person born without original sin? Adam was created by God, Eve Shaped out of his rib and therefore only Mary was born without original sin, to be the mother of the Son of God. Jesus was born with original sign and baptized.


806 posted on 04/15/2005 4:46:33 PM PDT by tort_feasor (FreeRepublic.com - Tommorrow's News, Today)
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