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If Kosovo is left in limbo, it will be a victory for Milosevic (Left panics)
guardian.co.uk ^ | Friday April 22, 2005 | Jonathan Steele

Posted on 04/22/2005 10:31:07 AM PDT by Destro

If Kosovo is left in limbo, it will be a victory for Milosevic

Jonathan Steele in Pristina
Friday April 22, 2005
The Guardian

Here in Kosovo is where it all began. The cancer that has been eating through Tony Blair's second term started out from this small fold in the Balkans. As images of tractors crowded with refugees rolled across his TV screen, with their message that full-scale ethnic cleansing was under way, the prime minister's moral instincts were aroused.

In power for barely a year, Blair was eager to take action in what was in 1998 an Albanian-majority province of Serbia. After the west's dithering over Bosnia, he saw Kosovo as the chance to make amends.

Blair did not succeed in persuading Bill Clinton to use ground troops, but he can take credit for convincing the US president that diplomacy was failing to stop Slobodan Milosevic and force was needed. The war took longer than predicted but Nato bombed Serb troops off the field and after 78 days (with diplomatic help from Russia) persuaded Milosevic to withdraw, thereby allowing almost 800,000 Albanian refugees to return home.

So the prime minister had a "good" war. His moral certainty and clout with the White House came together to produce relatively rapid success as well as support from most people in Britain, myself included. Kosovo was liberated and Blair is still a hero in Pristina.

Of course, critics pointed out that there was no UN security council resolution authorising Nato's war on Serbia. It was as illegal as the one on Iraq. True enough. But I felt the Kosovo campaign was legitimate - in a way that the Iraq one was not.

The Serbian government was violating human rights on a huge new scale, activating what is known in UN parlance as the outside world's "responsibility to protect". In Iraq there was nothing new about Saddam Hussein's repression and it was lesssevere in 2003 than earlier. Those who suspected he had no weapons of mass destruction argued that containment was working. For those not yet sure, the UN inspectors were in Iraq and should have been given more time.

But success in Kosovo had gone to Blair's head. The triumphant loss of his war-virginity made him a crusader, throwing away the necessary sense of caution and creating a stubborn self-righteousness. He assumed that, as with Kosovo, he would be justified and acclaimed once the Iraq war was over.

I regret his arrogance, although it does not weaken the case for the Kosovo intervention. One war need not lead to another, since politicians should judge each crisis on its merits. That said, Kosovo is rapidly returning to the international agenda, and we will need clarity and courage to ensure it does not flare up again.

For six years, the territory has been a UN protectorate. It has an elected president, prime minister and parliament, but ultimate power remains with Soren Jessen-Petersen, a courteous Dane who is the latest administrator of the UN mission in Kosovo (Unmik). He took over last year after clashes between Albanians and Serbs left 19 dead and forced more than 4,000 Serbs to flee their homes. The mobs also burned dozens of Unmik vehicles in frustration at the delay in getting a decision on whether Kosovo will be independent.

Western governments had played for time through a policy called "standards before status". Kosovo had to reach hundreds of benchmarks of democratic behaviour before talks on its future could begin. Jessen-Petersen narrowed the policy. "There was a sense after the March riots last year that we had to accelerate the process and simplify standards implementation, not to reward violence but because to keep this place in limbo for much longer would be rather risky," he told me. "We singled out all those standards that are linked to the minorities. The vast majority are focused on protection of the minorities, their living conditions, their rights and so on."

Now decision day is approaching. Kofi Annan will shortly appoint an envoy to review whether standards have been met sufficiently. If, as expected, the verdict is positive, another UN envoy will get the job of negotiating Kosovo's status.

Governments are already drawing up guidelines. They are likely to contain three noes: no return to the prewar position when Kosovo was under Belgrade's rule; no partition; and no change in external borders, ie no unification with Albania.

There is disagreement on Belgrade's role and how to handle Russia's potential for blocking Kosovo's independence. (It was the threat of a Russian veto that prevented Nato seeking UN authorisation before the 1999 war.) Nor is it clear if Annan will give his envoy a deadline. "I don't think anyone wants an open-ended conference that lasts for years, not a 20-year or 30-year Cyprus-type thing," Jessen-Petersen says. "Periods of six to nine months have been mentioned."

Western governments favour some form of independence, but are uncertain how to define it. Germany, once a firm champion of the Kosovo cause, appears to be backtracking. Its diplomats favour something similar to the conservative conclusions of a recent commission on the Balkans chaired by Giuliano Amato, a former Italian prime minister, and made up mainly of other centre-right politicians.

They proposed keeping Kosovo as a UN protectorate with slightly enhanced self-government under independence without full sovereignty. This is a disastrously condescending hybrid that would anger Kosovans and leave property and ownership issues in the legal limbo that now hinders investment. The commission also argued that Belgrade must agree to any change in status.

The International Crisis Group (ICG), by contrast, advocates full independence but with a continuing role for international monitors, foreign judges in the higher courts for ethnically sensitive cases, foreign troops to train a small Kosovan army, and UN staff checking on minority protection. This would be like East Timor, another recently independent state.

Serbia's objections are a problem, but Britain argues that Belgrade must have no veto. Other European governments should take the same view. The ICG says Belgrade may prefer an "imposed" solution rather than sign up to the "loss of Kosovo". Politicians could complain they were victims of outside forces - not an unusual Belgrade line.

Russia is a bigger problem. If Putin cannot be persuaded that Kosovo needs independence, the rest of the world should recognise the new state anyway. Kosovo can go without a UN seat - the only major consequence of a Kremlin veto.

As long as the EU accepts Kosovo's independence, the new state would have most of what it wants. Protecting the Serb minority is a high priority and, after the folly of last year's clashes, most Kosovans realise the door to EU membership will never open if ethnic violence is repeated.

But western governments must not go on delaying. Anything short of independence will mean that Milosevic, in his jail cell in the Hague, will have won after all.

j.steele@guardian.co.uk


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; kosovo; milosevic
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The :eft's dream in Kosovo is falling apart - mass graves of Serbs were just uncovered - killed under the UN/NATO occupation and just this week Kosovo's "president" was placed under protection for threats to his life while a war is being fought between narco-terrorist factions.

Slobo already won in my book.

1 posted on 04/22/2005 10:31:11 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
The Serbian government was violating human rights on a huge new scale, activating what is known in UN parlance as the outside world's "responsibility to protect". In Iraq there was nothing new about Saddam Hussein's repression and it was lesssevere in 2003 than earlier.

What a friggin' joke. So just because Saddam slaughtered 9,000 people in 2003, down from 10,000 in 2002, it wasn't as big a deal as the inflated death toll in Kosovo - which, when the alleged mass graves were finally unearthed, amounted to less than 3,000 people of mixed ethnicicity (i.e., including Serbs) - with far worse ethnic cleansing and more killing afterwards.

2 posted on 04/22/2005 10:36:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Destro

When the Euros are distracted there will be war between Serbia and Albania over Kosovo. Will the rest of the world get dragged into it, again?


3 posted on 04/22/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Lion in Winter; Destro; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; vooch; ...

And the good news for the left is that they did locate those mass graves that we heard were all over Kosovo.

The bad news for the left is that we found them in Iraq and they were full of Arabs.


4 posted on 04/22/2005 10:54:56 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Destro
The (should be) resulting message: We spent $70 billion on this mess so that Soros could cash in and euros would not be the dope currency of choice?
5 posted on 04/22/2005 11:15:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FormerLib

Well, there is that cave containing the remains of "non Albanians" that was recently discovered.


6 posted on 04/22/2005 11:19:22 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: montyspython

Clearly, the Serbs must have done that in some sort of bizarre Balkan mass-suicide. /left wing nutjob mode off


7 posted on 04/22/2005 11:40:15 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: expatpat
I think the Balkans mess should be left up to the rest of the EuroCrap Weasels, especially the French. (With them in a war, you can be sure the other side will win.) Let the EU handle it; they are all a bunch of loud mouth blowhards, always bitching about the US. Let 'em take care (and pay for) their own continental defense for a change.
8 posted on 04/22/2005 11:40:59 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: FormerLib

Yeah, Milosevic made them do it.


9 posted on 04/22/2005 12:23:31 PM PDT by montyspython
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To: Destro
Of course, critics pointed out that there was no UN security council resolution authorising Nato's war on Serbia. It was as illegal as the one on Iraq. True enough. But I felt the Kosovo campaign was legitimate - in a way that the Iraq one was not.

So he "felt" there was a difference between the justifications between Serbia and Iraq...no wonder most in the US don't see eye to eye with the anti-Iraq war crowd...we don't have their same "feelings". OR, he could try to apply FACTS and be on the same page with the rest of the thinking populace, but facts are only obstacles for the Left. The Serbian government was violating human rights on a huge new scale, activating what is known in UN parlance as the outside world's "responsibility to protect". In Iraq there was nothing new about Saddam Hussein's repression and it was lesssevere in 2003 than earlier.

Ah, so if a government has been performing mass murder for a prolonged period of time it's ok with the Left, they just don't like newcomers to the field of butchery. Wonder why they use "nazi" as if it's a bad thing then...after all, the nazis were butchering people for a long while before the US was involved in WW2...surely it was long enough to reach the acceptable level for the Left.

10 posted on 04/22/2005 12:47:07 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

Well said - just cuts through the Leftist crap.


11 posted on 04/22/2005 1:17:04 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: montyspython
Pity that we'll never hear any prognostications for the Great Prophet Zero on this.
12 posted on 04/22/2005 1:20:29 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Destro
"Of course, critics pointed out that there was no UN security council resolution authorising Nato's war on Serbia. It was as illegal as the one on Iraq."

...And lets not forget, as the Leftist News Media has done, that the EU also asked for U.S. troops to illegally invade Macedonia in June of 2001, to which U.S. President Bush replied "No."

Leftist Press Article Whining About Bush Not Invading Macedonia Per Euro Wishes

14 posted on 04/22/2005 1:36:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: dirtboy; expatpat; 45Auto; Carry_Okie

c#14


15 posted on 04/22/2005 1:45:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Carry_Okie
>>>>>The (should be) resulting message: We spent $70 billion on this mess so that Soros could cash in and euros would not be the dope currency of choice?<<<

Soros is not giving up even after failing to install Kerry into WH. See Holbrooke's interview a while ago, they hope to influence WH to do the bidding for them. Soros-financed war mongering scumbags also known as International Crisis Group shill for Kosovo independence, because without it Soros and his partner Marc Rich can not cash in.

16 posted on 04/22/2005 2:07:56 PM PDT by DTA
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To: dirtboy; All

This chump is no doubt saying that to try to convince himself that Kosovo intervention was good, but Iraq intervention was bad. WHich shows you what kind of people the left are...they enthusically cheered Sleazball Wille's stealth bomber diplomacy in Serbia no doubt because he was a fellow liberal, but opposed Bush's liberation of Iraq because he was more-or-less a conservative. It's just partisan politics...if Clinton had liberated Iraq, this guy would be singing the praises of Iraq's liberation from the rooftops.

Sometimes I think that if Bush or another conservative went to war against Satan himself, the left would support Lucifer or disapprove of him, but say the war was wrong.


17 posted on 04/22/2005 4:08:06 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Bush 25:17-And I will strike down upon the terrorists' asses with great vengeance and furious anger.)
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To: expatpat
I don't think so. Most of Albanians (in Albania) don't really care about Kosovo.
18 posted on 04/23/2005 3:41:09 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Southack
the EU also asked for U.S. troops to illegally invade Macedonia in June of 2001

Both untrue in fact & unsupported by the link you provided. In fact, the Macedonian government wanted increased U.S. military involvement at the time of the ethnic Albanian insurgency in 2001. Albanian extremists were crossing the border into Macedonia from both Kosovo & Serbia (Presevo region) and the Makos wanted the US to take action. The US led negotiations to eliminate the "Ground Safety Zone" (demilitarized buffer zone along Kosovo border with Serbia proper) which was being used by the Albanians as a protected refuge. The Mako government asked NATO to remove the Alb guerillas threatening Skopje from Aracinovo & the US took on that mission. The Makos asked for NATO/US liaison officers to coordinate actions between KFOR & Mako forces in sealing the Kosovo border; which we in fact provided.

Soooo, the Bush administration was very involved in Macedonia--also played a key role in the Ohrid negotiations that have made Macedonia the only former Yugoslav Republic to resolve a significant problem with an ethnic minority without major bloodshed (about 100 killed in that fighting).

19 posted on 04/23/2005 9:52:58 AM PDT by mark502inf
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The left's dream in Kosovo is falling apart

Yes it is. Despite opposition from Ramsey Clark, Noam Chomsky, Cynthia McKinney, Michael Moore, International ANSWER, ACT-UP, and every socialist or communist front organization in the world; President Bush's Balkans policy of supporting democracy, holding a hard-line on war criminals, with-holding aid from Serbia, and keeping US troops in Kosovo until future status is determined is paying dividends. Milosevic is on trial and about a dozen other Serb war criminals have surrendered in the past year. Kosovo is on its way to either independence or some type of loose federation with Serbia. Serbia has turned away from its communist past and has begun returning--albeit slowly--the bodies of Albanians hidden away in mass graves in Serbia. Milosevic's buddies Qaddafi & Saddam Hussein have turned-coat or are in jail, respectively. It is indeed a defeat for the left.

20 posted on 04/23/2005 10:38:52 AM PDT by mark502inf
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