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To French Workers, Minutes Add Up
International Herald Tribune Via AnkleBitingPundits.com ^ | 4/29/05 | Thomas Fuller

Posted on 04/30/2005 1:23:26 PM PDT by crushkerry

One minute and 52 seconds is the time it might take an employee to remove his coat and begin booting up his computer, or maybe to dart off for a trip to the water cooler. In France this year, it is the additional time that staff at the national railroad company were asked to work each day as their contribution to a "solidarity fund" for the handicapped and elderly.

The rail workers' response: not unless we get paid for it.

"One minute and 52 seconds doesn't seem like much but it still adds up to 7 or 8 hours a year that would not be paid," said Grégory Roux, secretary of the railroad workers division of the CGT, one of France's largest unions.

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You would think this was a joke or parody. But it's not.

But like we said over at www.anklebitingpundits.com:

You can't make this stuff up folks. The rest of the article has some amazing stuff about just how little French workers actually work, and how much they bi#ch about what little time they do work. No wonder one Paris daily newspaper had the headline: "The French Don't Want To Work" It really is a must-read article, if only to see just how coddled these whiners are.

Meanwhile let us suggest a new "holiday" for the French: "Get Off Your Lazy A$$es And Get To Work Day".


1 posted on 04/30/2005 1:23:29 PM PDT by crushkerry
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To: Grampa Dave; LincolnLover; jmstein7; backinthefold; .cnI redruM; OXENinFLA; Badeye; K1avg; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 04/30/2005 1:23:48 PM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.anklebitingpundits.com for great original conservative commentary)
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To: crushkerry

Strange that worker efficiency per hour is greater in France than in the US. That is not a good sign for the States.


3 posted on 04/30/2005 1:26:29 PM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77

Source? I don't beleive you.


4 posted on 04/30/2005 1:30:38 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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To: tomjohn77

cite?


5 posted on 04/30/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: tomjohn77
Strange that worker efficiency per hour is greater in France than in the US. That is not a good sign for the States

It's all in the definition. Somewhere in excess of 30% of french workers are government employees. How do you measure productivity of layers of bureaucrats?(Hint: Any way you want to,).

Compare how the French keep their crime rate so low--Police chiefs are evaluated on the reported crime rate in their jurisdictions--the fewer crimes reported, the better the evaluation. Hmmm...

6 posted on 04/30/2005 1:34:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: crushkerry

...sounds like a lot of the semi-sentients that I work with.


7 posted on 04/30/2005 1:38:48 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: BrooklynGOP

The article was posted here on this cite almost a year ago. Not by me. Just read it. Norway productivity was about 33% higher an hour than the US. France and Belgium productivity was slightly higher. All other European countries in the study was below US productivity an hour


8 posted on 04/30/2005 1:40:00 PM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77
Strange that worker efficiency per hour is greater in France than in the US. That is not a good sign for the States.

It's a little higher, not much. But that particular, oft-cited datum is much misunderstood. In France, as elsewhere in Europe, labor has been made very expensive through huge payroll-based taxation, layoff restrictions, etc. Employers rationally substitute capital (e.g. machines) for workers. The workers who remain appear to be very productive because they're working with so much capital, but many people don't work at all, and output per person (as opposed to per worker) becomes much lower.

9 posted on 04/30/2005 1:41:49 PM PDT by untenured
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To: crushkerry

Have you ever heard Dave Beck's parody "I Love the French"? What a hoot!


10 posted on 04/30/2005 1:44:51 PM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: crushkerry

"Get Off Your Lazy A$$es And Get To Work Day".


Amen brother, make it July 15th. After that one year when they let all their grandmothers and grandfathers die, because they couldn't bestir themselves from the sea shore.

Sheesh, maybe all the good white people already came over here and those that remain (with the exception of my one beloved baby in London, England) should just get taken over by the Muslims.

Hey, the Muslims don't do a lick of work either! Soon only the Americans, Chinese, and Indians will be doing any damn work at all.

Good for us, and let the rest rot.


11 posted on 04/30/2005 1:48:36 PM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: tomjohn77
I have worked for and with French Nationals as well as US Citizens and several other countries in A Classical Kitchen Brigade System over the Last 35 years I have not seen a Discerning Difference between anyone Nationality Though the French Tend to be alot more arrogant then most in a Kitchen setting which is really funny since most French food comes from Italy ( Caterina Di Meci`) or England (Augusta Escofier)
12 posted on 04/30/2005 1:49:11 PM PDT by Bigfitz (The mind is like a parachute works best when open)
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To: jocon307

I am proud to from Norway. We have the highest productivity per hour with a very good margin. 33% higher than the US and probably almost twice the average of other European countries


13 posted on 04/30/2005 2:10:46 PM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Source? I don't beleive you.

Good catch.
Some people will believe anything if it conforms with their fantasy world and their limited knowledge about anything.

The only true measure of efficiency is GNP divided by the working population.

You will never see that figure. At least not in France or in any French medium.

14 posted on 04/30/2005 2:45:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: tomjohn77

Who cares? The EU has about 150 million people and the EU and the US has about the same GDP.


15 posted on 04/30/2005 2:46:45 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

That's 150 million more people.


16 posted on 04/30/2005 2:47:52 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: tomjohn77
Here is one source on U.S. versus European productivity (from August 2004):

Productivity, income growth slower in the euro zone than the United States

Some highlights:

Unless you can cite data to the contrary, I consider your stat opinion rather than fact.
17 posted on 04/30/2005 3:01:00 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: k2blader
Europeans generally enjoy more free time and are prepared to forgo extra income in return.

In other words, they'd rather do nothing, and wouldn't mind it if they didn't get paid for it. Just make sure you give them all the benefits owed to them. Free food, free medical, free vacations, free housing, free utilities, and free gas.

18 posted on 04/30/2005 4:03:32 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: crushkerry
Plans for the solidarity fund arose after the brutal heat wave of 2003, when the government decided to sacrifice the Pentecost Monday holiday for the greater good. The holiday, which this year falls on May 16, has effectively been converted into an unpaid working day, with salaries - even from private companies - turned over to the government and channeled into a special fund.

That would be proximately like the US gov't telling all US workers to give up Good Friday holiday, work that day AND turn all the wages for that day over to the US gov't to be channeled into another social program.

I'd suggest that whoever bashes the French on this point should turn in their FR card and march over to DU.

19 posted on 04/30/2005 4:11:19 PM PDT by elli1
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To: crushkerry
OK, something I never thought I would do--I"m about to defend the French.

This isn't funny. The way I read it, I can't distinguish between what the French government is doing and slavery. They are requiring workers to work a holiday that was not traditionally worked and the employers are to turn all wages over to the government.

If this were voluntary it would be OK--but these people are going in to Renault or Le Creuset (sp?) and working and not getting paid.

I think most would gladly volunteer these wages to help the elderly survive those brutal< /s > Paris summers. But being forced to do it without a choice? I don't think so.

The last time I looked this kind of thing was called tyranny.

20 posted on 04/30/2005 4:30:17 PM PDT by Comstock1
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