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To: Right_in_Virginia

We have gone from being a political web site to being taken over by people pretending to be Christians.

On various thread the First Lady has been called White Trash, a whore, and more. Her Christianity has been questioned because of ONE joke.

If the President and First Lady aren't Christian enough for us, then I give up.

There is a certain faction on FR that CONSTANTLY pretends they are Christian and the rest of us aren't Christian enough or conservative enough.

#1. Anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet.

#2. I live in the Bible Belt where you can't walk 20 steps without bumping into a Baptist Church. Nearly all my friends and neighbors are Baptist. NOT ONE of them has a problem with the jokes.

#3. I think MOST of the people pretending to be outraged at the First Lady's jokes are NOT what they say they are.

#4. I think they are paid opinion shapers who come here to stir dissent.

#5. Read the book for which Jim Robinson wrote the foreward -- Hillary's Secret War. It details exactly how the opinion shapers on the left come to web sites ilke FR and have been tracked as coming from the DNC and the Washington Post, etc., to come here and try to shape opinion. All under the guise of Christianity and conservatism, of course.

#6. Think about how many people you have met in real life who would be upset about a joke about some city slicker coming into farm country trying to milk a male horse and not being able to tell the difference between a cow and a horse. It's a joke older than I am.


40 posted on 05/03/2005 2:26:34 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: Peach


BUMP.
You're exactly right Peach. Lots of wisdom there.


54 posted on 05/03/2005 2:33:05 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Peach
Well, I wish you'd not used the Taliban reference...and, having said that, let me ask you something:

Why do long-time Freepers engage so passionately with posters who rise to the surface solely to antagonize and divide the members of this forum?

What would happen if the deliberate antagonists were ignored? Wouldn't the thread simply fade away?

They feed on the replies posted to them. I say: "starve 'em!" Perhaps we should draw up a "tag team" to help us isolate the troublemakers...My blood pressure would be better for it....and the media would have to search elsewhere to find negative morsels to exploit.

Just my thoughts.

Be well, friend.

68 posted on 05/03/2005 2:38:18 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Peach
There is a certain faction on FR that CONSTANTLY pretends they are Christian and the rest of us aren't Christian enough or conservative enough.

Michael Rivero is that you? Got any proof to back up this conspiracy theory?

#1. Anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet.

Yep. You could claim to be a conservative who was driven to become a moderate because of the "far right" while all the time being a DU troll. How do we know you're not?

#2. I live in the Bible Belt where you can't walk 20 steps without bumping into a Baptist Church. Nearly all my friends and neighbors are Baptist. NOT ONE of them has a problem with the jokes.

Logical fallacy: Appeal to Popularity (argumentum ad populum)

#3. I think MOST of the people pretending to be outraged at the First Lady's jokes are NOT what they say they are.

Again, got proof? Or how about you show us some proof that you're not a DU troll?

#4. I think they are paid opinion shapers who come here to stir dissent.

And they're all on the far-right. Uh huh, sure.

#6. Think about how many people you have met in real life who would be upset about a joke about some city slicker coming into farm country trying to milk a male horse and not being able to tell the difference between a cow and a horse. It's a joke older than I am.

Well that's all fine and dandy, but what does it have to do with Mrs. Bush's quote below?

Andover and Yale don't have a real strong ranching program. But I'm proud of George. He has learned a lot about ranching, since that first year when he tried to milk the horse. What's worse it was a male horse.

74 posted on 05/03/2005 2:40:59 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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To: Peach

Amen Peach. One of the posers is named WallaceT. A controlling manipulative jerk.


108 posted on 05/03/2005 2:51:02 PM PDT by Alkhin (Some people are so heavenly minded they are no earthly good.)
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To: Peach

Excellent response, Peach!! Gives one quite a bit to think about, too.


695 posted on 05/03/2005 7:00:07 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Peach
#5. Read the book for which Jim Robinson wrote the foreward -- Hillary's Secret War. It details exactly how the opinion shapers on the left come to web sites ilke FR and have been tracked as coming from the DNC and the Washington Post, etc., to come here and try to shape opinion. All under the guise of Christianity and conservatism, of course...

Well said.

736 posted on 05/03/2005 7:16:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Peach

Give 'em hell, Peach.

You're doing good.


751 posted on 05/03/2005 7:26:11 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Peach

The only people I know who were offended were my girlfriend's grandparents-who are what I like to call nanny-state Christian Democrats-socially uptight (NOT conservative-there's a difference) and fiscally liberal.


1,089 posted on 05/04/2005 8:43:45 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Peach

If Teresa Heinz Kerry had said the same thing, you and howlin would be castigating and villifying her for days : )

No, there was nothing that bad about Mrs. Bush trying to impress a bunch of left wing lumps, but it was so out of character for her, that it didn't work. Laura has grace and class....she is not a stand up comedian.


1,186 posted on 05/05/2005 10:27:18 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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