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To: rdb3; risk
This is the end game. Our "leaders" will pretend to be shocked when the courts make this next move.

Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.

Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”

Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.


20 posted on 05/08/2005 11:09:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

It's ironic: somehow, people see it as "fair" that slaves (illegal immigrants) be granted suffrage. Once the consistency of our fundamental laws is undermined, nothing makes sense anylonger. We are a nation of laws, not men. Right now, men (and women) are encouraging the violation of these laws for economic reasons, political reasons, and a lack of will. They're seriously underestimating the impact of flouting American immigration law.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 12:17:43 PM PDT by risk
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To: Travis McGee

Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years.

** WHAT BULLSHIT. No voting whatsoever. I live in Hempstead village drowing in illegals and the property taxes only go up and up and up...Ask any other Long Islander what they think about property taxes Senor Ortiz.


25 posted on 05/08/2005 2:13:22 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Travis McGee

Interesting scenario.


33 posted on 05/08/2005 7:35:01 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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