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1 posted on 05/15/2005 1:54:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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LOL good think he chose to visit the Punan and not the Dayaks or Iban.

I've spent a lot of time over there as well, but on the north side (Sarawak and Sabah)

I wrote recently about things over there if anyone is interested.

Moral Relativism in the Rainforest of Diversity

2 posted on 05/15/2005 2:03:00 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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Researchers who want to get primitive tribes to stay primitive are just living out their own fantasies of living in the woods.

IF this life was so great how come we are not living it now. Because it is not great. We have found a better way then living hand to mouth.

Given the chance most humans well gladly improve their life style. What holds them back a lot of times is laws and government interference.

3 posted on 05/15/2005 3:56:23 AM PDT by riverrunner
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When I lived in Panama, I met a young couple who was subsisting on the edge of civilization by doing odd jobs. I asked if they wanted to move back to their village in the jungle. Oh no! They said. In the village, they make you work. If you don't work (dawn to dusk back breaking labor of subsistence farming) you don't eat!
7 posted on 05/15/2005 6:32:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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I much prefer finding my snacks on the grocery shelf rather than crawling on the forest floor.

Now, venison jerky, that's another matter.


8 posted on 05/15/2005 6:32:46 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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Interestingly, the "hunter-gatherers" in Borneo are so free-spirited and open minded that they don't discriminate by limiting their hunting to animals of other species.

See link below for clip of a Borneo headhunter.

http://www.shutterpoint.com/Photos-ViewPhoto.cfm?id=115064

9 posted on 05/15/2005 6:35:11 AM PDT by True Capitalist
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So it seems Thoreau was right.

It's better to live in a cabin by the pond.


10 posted on 05/15/2005 6:38:47 AM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square.)
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Yes yes, the primitives are so colorful and amusing. They provide such lovely living laboratories, it would be a shame to have them become just a few more boring workers with aspirations for a better life. Better they should die in their twenties and play host to rare parasites so we can study their rich cultural heritage.


12 posted on 05/15/2005 7:37:44 AM PDT by speedy
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Their tradition of eating regular snacks found in the undergrowth is replaced by consuming unhealthy pre-packaged food such as potato chips or fat-laden cakes, leading some young Punan to develop weight problems.

The last time a "regular snack found in the undergrowth"
wriggled it's many legs at me, I suddenly found I was not
THAT hungry.


17 posted on 05/15/2005 12:00:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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