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1 posted on 05/18/2005 4:53:35 PM PDT by Ellesu
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"Their refusal to comply with the consent decree should and must result in their removal from society."

I never thought I would see the day, but the local talk radio here/ some TV are saying these people may actually serve jail time. What has happened to this country.


2 posted on 05/18/2005 4:56:52 PM PDT by Ellesu
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...but illegal aliens should go free.


3 posted on 05/18/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Every now and then, a libertarian type will post something to the effect of how the ACLU is even handed, and by gosh, they do a lot of good. I have been pleased to see these posts are getting less and less frequent. The ACLU is finally getting the recognition it deserves as an anti American lobby of tax exampt lawyers.

Now, the ACLU finally has found a jail sentence they support - for praying!

10 posted on 05/18/2005 5:06:02 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Real men don't buy their firewood.)
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admonished students who didn't show up for the class.

I am quite certain this is a lie.

14 posted on 05/18/2005 5:21:25 PM PDT by montag813
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One of the big problems with the ACLU is they remain fairly well funded. One way they get funding is through loopholes in the law that allow their lawyers to be paid with our money. Under a variety of circumstances by state or local govts., when they decide to sue under their many dubious law suits they finagle us to pick up the bill. The ACLU is an insidious institution bent on destroying the country and I will not change my tagline until they are dead and buried as an organization.
16 posted on 05/18/2005 5:32:43 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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At the same time it warned school employees against flouting the court prayer ban. That warning preceded by hours, however, the ACLU's latest contention that some in Tangipahoa continue to ignore the court's orders.

"The consent judgment is repeatedly violated by these individuals because they do not believe anything will happen to them," the ACLU said in its Wednesday court filing. "Their refusal to comply with the consent decree should and must result in their removal from society."

Under the agreement, no "invocations by students to the student body over the school's public address system, during assemblies or at any school sponsored event" are allowed.



The nazi-ACLU whined to the court: "Their refusal to comply with the consent decree should and must result in their removal from society." ACLU's final solution:
To the OVENS! "Crisp the Christians"

The best weapon against the ACLU's petty persecutions is DEFIANCE! If every one just DEFIED court decisions dictated by the ACLU, the ACLU will rant and whine itself into oblivion! Defy the Basturds!

"Right hand turn, Clyde!"


18 posted on 05/18/2005 5:42:36 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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"Their refusal to comply with the consent decree should and must result in their removal from society."

Und Rich, Und Volk, Und Furor!
20 posted on 05/18/2005 5:57:17 PM PDT by Husker24
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Jailwould be too kind for the freakin Communists and America HATERS of the Anti-Christian Liars Union.I say
send 'em all to Afghanistan with Crusader suits(san chain mail, and anti-Islamic tatoos -so even if they ditch the
threads their own skin would teach them about the bloody
religion of Peace.


21 posted on 05/18/2005 6:12:10 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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This is a 'eye-roller' in either direction; the school's, for thinking that exercises in public piety will make the students virtuous: and the ACLU's, for assuming that public piety has anything at all to do with religion.
22 posted on 05/18/2005 6:16:34 PM PDT by Grut
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I'd like to see the ACLU disbanded instead of playing peeping tom in everyone's affairs.


23 posted on 05/18/2005 6:50:10 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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PROBLEM:

SOLUTION:


24 posted on 05/18/2005 6:58:44 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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The school is smart. Think about it. First they are saying .. UP YOURS.. ACLU you may control the courts but you can’t enforce these rulings. Second, If someone does get arrested, it should make the NEWS, with a headline like “Man arrested for Praying in School.” This should promote a national out cry, and embarrass the ACLU, maybe even get the laws change.


27 posted on 05/18/2005 7:10:16 PM PDT by Exton1
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...the prayer ban, imposed to settle a lawsuit the civil liberties group filed for a parent in 2003.

One person...can impose their desire on an entire school/town/country?????

29 posted on 05/18/2005 7:16:28 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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"The group contends parish school officials systematically flout the Constitution's Establishment Clause forbidding the mixing of government and religion."

I don't find that clause in my Constitution.


30 posted on 05/18/2005 7:19:50 PM PDT by ArmedNReady
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It's time to end public schools.


32 posted on 05/18/2005 7:32:04 PM PDT by Tribune7
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I don't like the generic term ACLU. What is the name of the person who filed these charges? Who is the ACLU lawyer defending the charges? Maybe when the community learns of the names of these goofballs, they will be ostracized and maybe even castrated!!!!!


34 posted on 05/18/2005 7:38:39 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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Some serious punishment is certainly needed here. Those ACLU freaks are guilty of harassment and and filing a frivolous lawsuit.

But maybe the school personnel are onto a really good idea. What better way to deal with these vermin than to just ignore them?

38 posted on 05/18/2005 8:14:35 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: Ellesu; cjohnson7771; Tailgunner Joe; cripplecreek; PeterPrinciple; Blurblogger; eeriegeno; ...
Among ACLU's founders January 12, 1920, were William Z. Foster, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn and Louis F. Budenz. All three later became prominent leaders of the Communist Party, USA, although Budenz broke with the Party in 1945 and became a militant anti-Communist.

In 1976, Congress passed the Civil Rights Attorneys Fee Awards Act, which was designed to encourage private lawyers to take on suits to protect civil and constitutional rights. The law provides that judges can order federal and state governments to pay legal fees to private lawyers who sued the government and won. The result has been a flood of civil rights cases in federal court. From The New American Feb. 2, 1987

It's an outrage that US law, passed during the Watergate era, allows the ACLU to collect attorney's fees for makework----Christian-hatng lawsuits it itself launches.

That means "values voters" have been footing the bill for the ACLU's launching a juggernaut to remove Ten Commandments images, Christmas creches and Christmas carols, taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance, and because they claim they have a civil right not to see the Ten Commandments, a civil right not to hear the word “God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, not to see a creche of the Baby Jesus, not to hear Christmas carols. The ACLU has collected a huge amount of our tax dollars in this left-handed fundraiser for the ACLU.

FReepers can silence the ACLU with a bit of activism. We need to insist our Congressmen repeal this abusive law that allows the ACLU to get rich on harassing Christian America. Congress must repeal laws enabling the ACLU's Christian-hating activities. Cut off the ACLU's funds and watch them disappear. Here's what we can do.

Under the aegis of the ACLU's Foundation---worth some $135 million---any number of financial travesties can be hidden. The IRS should determine whether the ACLU is properly accounting for all its tax-funded activities, whether it is inflating legal costs, and whether it is using tax dollars for the purposes stated. We need to know whether the ACLU is engaged in Enron-style accounting and spending practices.

REFERENCE SOURCE FOR ARGUING REPEAL TO CONGRESS

Apparently, when Congress contemplated the fee-shifting bill three decades ago, it never conceived that 42 U.S.C. §1988 would be used to secure fees in esoteric battles over the meaning of the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

The statute gives a court "discretion" to award attorneys' fees to the prevailing party in civil rights cases.

Study of the legislative history of the statute reveals that Congress intended this statute to apply to civil rights abuses, including certain race and sex discrimination cases, but not to arguments about whether Judge Roy Moore is allowed to display the Ten Commandments in the Alabama courthouse.

During the deliberations on the bill, the Senate penned that "in many cases arising under our civil rights laws, the citizen who must sue to enforce the law has little or no money with which to hire a lawyer."[6] In the recent First Amendment lawsuits filed by the ACLU, the tables are turned.

Small school districts and municipalities can either defend lawsuits and risk paying the ACLU's attorneys' fees if they lose, or they can voluntarily submit to the ACLU's view of the Constitution.

Even if lawsuits over the establishment clause somehow fall within 42 U.S.C. §1988, the statute empowers courts with nothing more than "discretion" to award fees.

In these cases, one would expect courts to withhold awarding fees. Since this is not happening, Congress must take immediate action to clarify 42 U.S.C. §1988 to explicitly exclude lawsuits related to the acknowledgement of God.

NOTE: In order to spread this message far and wide, you may have already received this. Sorry about that.

41 posted on 05/19/2005 2:37:30 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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"U.S. District Judge Ginger Berrigan banning prayer before school board meetings."

Is the ACLU going to ask the courts to put congress in jail for having their sessions begin with prayer? Amen.
42 posted on 05/19/2005 2:41:19 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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They had better bring in federal marshalls because I seriously doubt the Sheriff will arrest them.
50 posted on 05/19/2005 5:46:10 AM PDT by FireTrack
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