Posted on 05/22/2005 7:30:03 AM PDT by Dada Orwell
Too late... The cost to America is far more than the 3000 lives lost. The entire country is now subject to the whims of the beaurocrats, and their too-late responses!
There is nothing that will make us safe from a terrorist intending to kill people, or destroy property. they prefer the killing...
They won, as soon as we started looking over our own citizens...
Both wrong. Thousands dead because two planes were flown into the WTC and one into the Pentagon. If they had not done this on 9/11, then they would have killed, with another means, at another time...
THERE IS NO SECURITY AT AIRPORTS, ONLY HASSLE FOR THE PASSENGERS! You can keep thinking you're safe...
With the procedures we now have, we are losing BILLIONS of DOLLARS in WASTE and DELAY... not to mention the additional inconveninces, and loss of privacy.
They have won the first round, and the second round...
For all that, we no longer fully have what our ancestors, who framed and ratified our Constitution, thought of as freedom a careful division of power that prevents power from becoming concentrated and unlimited. The word they usually used for concentrated power was consolidated a rough synonym for fascist. And the words they used for any excessive powers claimed or exercised by the state were usurped and tyrannical. They would consider the modern liberal state tyrannical in principle; they would see in it not the opposite of the fascist, communist, and socialist states, but their sister.
If Washington and Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton could come back, the first thing theyd notice would be that the federal government now routinely assumes thousands of powers never assigned to it powers never granted, never delegated, never enumerated. These were the words they used, and its a good idea for us to learn their language. They would say that we no longer live under the Constitution they wrote. And the Americans of a much later era the period from Cleveland to Coolidge, for example would say we no longer live even under the Constitution they inherited and amended.
I call the present system PostConstitutional America. As I sometimes put it, the U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.
You're overlooking the fact that Republicans have their own reasons for wanting illegal immigration.
Freedom BUMP!
The "private business" thing is a thin figleaf.
For starters, I'd like my FIFTEEN BILLION back from those tax-eating scum.
Second, anything the government does that is not explicitly authorized by the Constitution is illegal and illegitimate. As a Republican, you know that, right? Or, perhaps, you are of a political persuation that does not believe that.
New Hampshire is an unlicensed open carry state, by the way. Since we have a 14th Amendment, one wonders why every state is not so blessed?
This guy is not "waving a firearm" which would be rude no matter if it was illegal. He is a decent man challenging a corrupt, illegitimate, and illegal system. He ought to get a medal.
Sure, because the Wahhabist would be further highlighting the fact we are not kicking Wahhabists out wholesale.
We have existing provisions in immigration and naturalization laws to prohibit such people, and those laws were applied to both Nazis and Communists, stripping them of citizenship in many cases.
Any other brilliant questions?
"Any other brilliant questions?"
Not until I get some "brilliant" answers.
Try dropping the attitude and just discuss. I haven't impressed you and you haven't impressed me. The sarcasm just destroys the exchange.
Aren't we "sensitive."
The fact is, all the intrusive crap that homelAm3 "security" has foisted on us has no basis in an actual need to improve security. It is ALL about strengthing our chains.
To hell with them, and to hell with anyone so ignorant they can't remember that we faced far graver threats without requiring IDs for travel. Anyone that ignorant deserves the slavery and lack of actual security they get.
On that, he is absolutly correct. He's perfectly free to walk to any destination within the United States he so choses. He can drive (he better have a license for that however) or swim, or flp his arms and fly himself. But nothing in Constitution says that an airline, bus or ship must transport his stupid ass anywhere.
Your wish to be arrested will be honored sir. Turn around and assume the position. Thank you.
He'll never make it as far as the TSA checkpoing without ID. You can't even get a boarding pass without showing ID to the airline agent. The local cops will haul his ass away before he ever sees a "Gobermnt Agent".
Show me where the Constitution ever said there was such a right?
All the Constitution says was that any citizen was free to travel from state to state. He's still is free to travel from NH to any state he choses, but if he wants to do it by commercial air, the rule says he has to identify himself.
He is also free to track down and harass the jackboots that keep his from his natural freedoms.
The correct response to a government that erodes our freedoms bit by bit, is to ruin the lives of its agents, bit by bit.
Excuse me, but what natural freedom are they keeping him from? Have you ever tried reading the Constitution, or do you just like to imagine what it is supposed to say?
I suppose he is "free to harass the jackboots" but I can also tell you that if he does, they will also be free to put one of their boots up his behind and perhaps knock a little common sense into him.
Ahhh, isn't it great to hear people rooting FOR the Jackbooted Thugs?
Do you think these no-necks would be smart enough to figure out why they have been subscribed to every kiddie porn site on Earth?
Why their picture is on alt.com seeking dom leather boy partners?
Why a woman calls his wife every few days and makes a lame excuse about a wrong number?
Taking down a JBT's reputation is simple, even if, unlike the Boston FBI office, they aren't criminals already. Finding dirt on cops is about as hard as finding dirty water in the Charles. And if you can't find any, lie, like a cop would do.
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